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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:09 pm 
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Hey all,

I "inherited" this gun from my Grandfather when he passed a few years ago. No one had a clue he ever owned this, let alone kept it. We estimate its from around 1960 - as the firearms tag attached to it (yes, he registered it with the Canadian Firearms office, or whatever it was called back then) is from that era. It also has the stamp of being registered as well. (at least that is what a friend told me the "F" stamp means)

If anyone can figure out when this was manufactured it'd be great to have some more info on it. I don't think its really ever been fired by anyone other then me.

Onto the photos! Anyone wants more photos please let me know.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:58 am 
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Hate to tell you this.A F stamped gun means it is low powered.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:14 am 
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pabirdman wrote:
Hate to tell you this.A F stamped gun means it is low powered.

Would that be common back in the 60`s on Canadian ones


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:55 am 
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Here you go. Everything that you would ever want to know about your Dads pistol and it's history. And it was never registered with anyone. A keeper because of it's family history and sentimental value. Value forsale would not be very much. Around the $10 mark. So keep it and enjoy it for what it is. 8)

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:01 pm 
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I bought a chrome model from a pawn shop in London Ontario in 1954 when I was fourteen years old.
I thought I really had something because it sure looked cool. It broke not long afterward when the spring let go while pulling the cocking slide back. I could never fix it so it sat in a drawer for years. The pistol was a single shot for bb's or darts and had a smooth bore barrel inside about 2 1/2" of the drop-down front end of the gun. It woefully lacked in power and didn't hold a candle to my Diana Gat gun. Still, I wish I had it today just for the memories if nothing else.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:00 pm 
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scruffie wrote:
Here you go. Everything that you would ever want to know about your Dads pistol and it's history. And it was never registered with anyone. A keeper because of it's family history and sentimental value. Value forsale would not be very much. Around the $10 mark. So keep it and enjoy it for what it is. 8)

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html



Thanks for the links. It was my Grandfathers gun, not my dads, and it was registered- or at least he attempted to register it- we have the original paperwork and tag. (paperwork is half damaged/ripped/faded)


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Isn't this the Marksman 1010 model? I saw it on sale at PyramidAir before, with a kit.. haha.. it's full metal though, better than the plastic cheapo in silver which doesn't even shoot straight. The shots spill all over the ground, scary pistol, very dangerous for that reason!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:49 pm 
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Mak wrote:
Isn't this the Marksman 1010 model? I saw it on sale at PyramidAir before, with a kit.. haha.. it's full metal though, better than the plastic cheapo in silver which doesn't even shoot straight. The shots spill all over the ground, scary pistol, very dangerous for that reason!

The grey one is also full metal except for the loading part, it's made of plastic on both pistol and they both shoot like crap.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:28 pm 
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After examining your pics I don’t think that your Marksman Repeater was manufactured in the 1960’s. I have a similar pistol (see pics) which I purchased on August 3, 1979 paying a whopping price of $23.95 (actually it was relatively expensive then). On the left side of receiver it has a marking “MARKSMAN REPEATER” and on the right side of receiver it states “MADE IN TORRANCE.CALIF.USA” and to the back “UMA-the F in pentagon mark”. It is all metal (cheap pot metal though) with plastic grip covers. The original box simply says “MARKSMAN 1010 AIR PISTOL” (see pic).
According to information I found in the three reports by B.B. Pelletier (Tom Gaylord) (http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... that.html; http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... that.html; http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html) and http://bluebookofgunvalues.com/airgun_v ... N_PRODUCTS the Marksman pistol was originally made in 1955 by Morton H. Harris, Inc. of Beverly Hills, California as a single shot pistol. Then the company moved to Los Angeles and then around 1970 they moved to Torrance, CA where they continued as Marksman Products. In LA and Torrance they manufactured the new model Marksman Repeater also called the MPR (Marksman Pistol Repeater), containing a square BB magazine. My Marksman seems to be manufactured around 1978-1979 in Torrance.
In the early 1990’s Marksman moved to Huntington Beach, CA and around that time the company became a division of S/R Industries. Since your Marksman has inscription “HUNTINGTON BEACH.CA.USA” it must have been produced in the early 1990’s after the company moved from Torrance to Huntington Beach. In addition, your Marksman has a serial number which is another indicator of relatively recent production batch. In the 1960-70’s no serial numbers were inscribed on low-end, cheap air pistols. Your Marksman looks nearly identical to the early 1010 shown in (http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/ ... -that.html) by B.B. Pelletier.
All Marksman pistols produced in Torrance and Huntington Beach have a pretty low value not exceeding $40 with an original box and all paper work.
The "F-in-pentagon-mark" is specifically for distribution to a German market. It designates airguns whose muzzle energy does not exceed 7.5 Joules. For such airguns in Germany no special purchase authorization is required. Apparently the Marksman Repeater 1010 was also exported to Germany


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:44 am 
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Hey all,
I have a marksman repeater from my grandfather, too.
I'm from Germany and tried to find out more information about my marksman.
My is made in LA and has no serial number.
Patent pending
So you think this is from the 60's?

Greetings to all
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I owned the exact same one from canadian tire in 88...It was my first pistol.... it shoots bbs and darts but dont bother with the darts as it will go less than 100 fps with the darts...


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Thanks for the links. It was my Grandfathers gun, not my dads, and it was registered- or at least he attempted to register it- we have the original paperwork and tag. (paperwork is half damaged/ripped/faded)



I bet that was a warranty registration card, or something similar. Who would you register a low power gun with, and why? Toys'R Us maybe??

The one in the photo doesn't look all that old. I would guess 80's-90's. The older ones looked a bit different. I was going to dig mine out for some pictures, but it was too sunny to stay in and do that today.

It has sentimental value, it's metal, not the plastic crap they switched to, so it feels good in the hand. Keep it and value it for what it is.

They were the pistol version of the Red Rider to many young lads back then. Cheap, low power. I used to shoot at the boobs of a beer poster girl I had in my room. Just barely dented the drywall. I don't advise or think it was very smart, but we also had games of Cops and Robbers with them, they were very low powered. My original one died, I always said I would keep it as a paper weight when I got a desk job. Never knew how things and views on guns would change. Not a good paper weight these days. I'm also glad to say I've never had a desk job, and still have that 1010, so life is good. :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:55 pm 
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The new version is the Umarex DX-17 BB Spring Pistol:

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Umarex_DX ... istol/4289

https://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/20 ... top-review

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