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inigo_151
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:18 am 
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-Full-auto or _ round burst
-12g CO2 powered
-uses standard 4.5mm BB's
-reasonably priced (under $200)

Does anyone know any air rifles that fit that description? The ones I already know of that do are the Umarex Steel Storm, Umarex Steel Force, and the Umarex EBOS. (The Umarex EBOS doesn't really accurately fit the description since it uses 88g co2 cartridges. I just thought i'd include it anyway)
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 11:34 am 
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The IWI Mini Uzi (also by KWC) comes semi-auto only but an easy 15 min mod turns it full-auto. Uses one 12g Co2 in the 25 round mag. Spare mags are available (a bit pricey but what are ya goin' to do?) Not a rifle, but a super fun unit to have and shoot!

Here is one source for these, there are probably others as well.
http://www.airgunsource.com/iwi-uzi-177 ... ck/dp/1679

These also come up for sale used here on the Forum from time to time.

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Why is this cheaper from the same website?
Only $119.99.
http://www.airgunsource.com/mini-uzi-carbine-w-fake-suppressor/dp/1841
I want the silencer, bigtime. 8)


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If you read a bit, they are not the same gun or even close. This is the best deal at the moment.

http://www.cabelas.ca/product/26054/uzi ... -blow-back

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I bought mine when it was on sale at Princess Auto. I guess it's not the blowback model.
http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Tactical/CO2-Powered-Mini-Uzi-BB-Gun/8410789.p

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I'm not really all that experienced with airguns, so the fact that I have to mod the Uzi to get full-auto is a deal breaker for me. Any other full-auto bb guns you guys can recommend?
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The Umarex Steel Storm is a great gun for the price. It doesn't have full auto, but it can shoot 6 shot bursts.
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inigo_151 wrote:
I'm not really all that experienced with airguns, so the fact that I have to mod the Uzi to get full-auto is a deal breaker for me. Any other full-auto bb guns you guys can recommend?

Here's a link to the YouTube video explaining how to do the mod; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8stqbl2F5E

Maybe you can buy a used Uzi that's already modified.

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There is also the drozd Blackbird but way over $200.Maybe a used one around $250.
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Uzi, or steel force.
Uzi gets 50 shots to a co2. Force gets 300 with 2 carts.
Both are easy to mod to full auto, or at least I think so. Several people have messed up the Force doing the mod.
I will mod either for 25.00.

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paddyfritz wrote:
Uzi, or steel force.
Uzi gets 50 shots to a co2. Force gets 300 with 2 carts.
Both are easy to mod to full auto, or at least I think so. Several people have messed up the Force doing the mod.
I will mod either for 25.00.


The Steel Force/Steel Storm seem like much better deals. I think i'll be looking to purchase one or the other in the near future. Thanks!
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I love the steel force and in semi-auto it's really better than I tought accuracy wise.

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DocGadget wrote:
I love the steel force and in semi-auto it's really better than I tought accuracy wise.


How's the 6 round burst on the Steel Force? I've heard many people have had issues where their Steel Force's full-auto function breaks after 1000+ shots.
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inigo_151 wrote:
DocGadget wrote:
I love the steel force and in semi-auto it's really better than I tought accuracy wise.


How's the 6 round burst on the Steel Force? I've heard many people have had issues where their Steel Force's full-auto function breaks after 1000+ shots.


There appears to be three things that cause this.
1 dry bolt.
2 coil spring comes off linkage.
3 not enough force exerted by the trigger on the sear, made worse by a dry bolt.

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paddyfritz wrote:
inigo_151 wrote:
DocGadget wrote:
I love the steel force and in semi-auto it's really better than I tought accuracy wise.


How's the 6 round burst on the Steel Force? I've heard many people have had issues where their Steel Force's full-auto function breaks after 1000+ shots.


There appears to be three things that cause this.
1 dry bolt.
2 coil spring comes off linkage.
3 not enough force exerted by the trigger on the sear, made worse by a dry bolt.

I noticed that fact too with my Steel Force.

Mine tends to go full auto when the CO2 gets low.

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