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Apparently they want your First Name, Last Name, Drivers License Number, Home Address, Phone, and some other information...they have a book stored behind the counter to record all this.

I wanted to buy the 29.99 Red Ryder bb gun, so its hardly controlled goods, or a PAL item.

I didnt feel like having all my info recorded so I didnt buy it...wasnt going to argue with the manager, its store policy. Record book had about 30 pages of names filled out which I perused while waiting for the manager, so I guess sheeple dont mind.

BB gun in question...

I looked at it also, but I only got as far as made in China.

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I think they are on sale at tsc store this week. no information needed there.

I watched a guy ffreak ouyt in Walmert a while back...

They said "I need your drivers license", he says "Ii don't have one and there is no law in Canada that says I have to be a licensed driver to buy this (whatever it was) pellet gun or a firearm for that matter"...The lady didn't know what to do

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I whipped out my PAL last time I got asked for ID at Canadian Tire.........and then I told them I was just going to order my pellets online because their price was too high
I really had no intention of buying them anyway, just wanted to prove a point

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The people behind the counter are just "Employee" and they are just doing what they are told.
If you have a "Burning Desire" to make a point, ask to speak to the Manager.
That would not get you anywhere but at least it would be brought up at the next store meeting.
At Le Baron, was asked for Name and Telephone No. to purchase Pellets.
Was told if not, then the pellets cannot leave the Store.

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I understand the need for certain protocols when it comes to a retailer protecting their own behinds because of certain laws. I did think it was rather odd though, when I went into my local LeBarons to grab some .177 lead pellets and they insisted I produce my drivers license. That's a little bit overkill as far as I'm concerned, to the point where I said to the cashier "Is this a precaution geared towards being able to identify me when I take down a couple of Brinks guards with this ammo?" She was pretty good natured fortunately, and just laughed it off. If it was an actual air "gun" I was purchasing, I understand completely. Where does it stop though??? Will I have to produce ID the next time I stop in to pick up some pellgun oil or a paper target?

Absolutely ridiculous.

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I suspect you are in Ontario, I think this may be the only province with a Provincial requirement for stores to keep this information. Everywhere else it is not legal for a store to keep this information at the request of the provincial CFO. (Quebec may have different regulations)

I think it is store to store with CT.. not a provincial thing... here in Campbellford (read rural) I have bought rifles and ammo (AG) without a blink... they just carry the ammo to the cash. I watched 2 guys today ask for and be given boxes of PB ammo today with flashing a card (granted they may be local and known the staff which also lends credit to where you are makes a difference).

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I have yet to have anyone ask for ID, forget ask to write it down. Some stores like CT and Princess Auto walk it to the front with you, like they do for every other in cabinet item. Since Ontario does require 18 and older only, I can see some might want to cover their tails, like seeing ID the same as for booze or smokes, but they would get no sale from me if they wanted to record the purchase.

I've heard of this problem before but I do believe that it is simply the policy of one store not the entire Cdn Tire chain. Simply go to another store.
Just last month I bought a Browning Leverage air rifle at a Cdn Tire and they didn't even ask to see proof of age.

Sometimes at WalMart when I buy pellets from some pimply faced kid he asks me for ID to prove I'm over eighteen. It's a requirement I guess, a reminder even comes up on his cash to ask the question.

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Its just a privacy thing for me. Like I said, I could have literally walked out with that book full of everyone names, address and drivers license numbers. Its just behind the counter for anyone to snatch, not secure information in anyway.

Bought a Daisy 953 2 weeks ago, and 1377 pistol and ammo, from TSC and Amazon respectively, no ID checks there.

I dont see how taking this info helps anything if its not consistent...I can buy a Crosman Phantom next door at the Walmart with no ID check. And there is no serial number on these bb guns, no way to check the barrel to the bb etc.

If anything slingshots should need a PAL, those can do more damage than a Red Ryder...

I did ask to speak to the manager, but no one could find him. So I just said to put the bb gun back; I wasnt going to buy it if ID was required.

I know the kids working there just have to follow rules, Im not out to debate anyone or give anyone a hard time. Staff is going a good job working hard to earn money just like anyone else.

I see the point here, if they are writing down personal information, how exactly are they protecting it???

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CT is franchised so it's just a store thing. I bought pellet gun from the local CT without any of that crap. Don't remember if I showed my ID, but nothing was written down that's for sure.