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 Post subject: i got my new barrel!
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:54 am 
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ahhh, i can't wait till the weekend. i'm stuck at my college apt just counting the days till i can get back to the house and finish my new setup. i've installed the new barrel, and it looked god-awful long, so i've decided to make a new stock. this is my second (the first was crap), and it's about 1/3 finished right now. again, sorry i don't have any pics...but this is the shape of the blank i've cut out so far--just to give you an idea.

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btw, i think my new 24" barrel is a bit more accurate than my 14" (as i was hoping). atleast, it groups rws superpoints much better...i haven't had a chance to test the crosman pointed yet--they grouped best in the 14".

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congrats on getting your barrel
i have a question about your stock.
how to you cut out the inside at the pistol grip. i would like to make my own stock. and im thinking c&c

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Looks pretty sweet, keep us posted.


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Looks wicked!!!

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Aaron_2289g_guy wrote:
congrats on getting your barrel
i have a question about your stock.
how to you cut out the inside at the pistol grip. i would like to make my own stock. and im thinking c&c


i've actually been racking my brain about that one myself...and here's what i've come up with. the last stock i made i used a router mounted on a saw table to cut a groove that i mounted the trigger and sear pin into. i didn't like it, because if the stock shifted the gun might fire or the hammer might not be able to move far enough back to engage the sear pin. anyway, i'll get some pics up when i FINALLY get the change to help explain...but i'm not doing that again.

i figure, since crosman parts are so cheap, i'll just start hacking at the metal grip with a saw. i'm going to cut the bottom off below where the screws hold on the grips, and i'll use those screws to hold on the stock (plus 2 more mounted off the CO2 tube). i'll use a router to cut a groove for the remaining grip to fit in. i should have a router bit that long (i hope).

lol, i've also considered cutting the stock out in 2 halves and making the necessary cuts, then gluing the 2 sides together and doing the shaping to make the 2 halves flush. btw, i'm using particle board, so i'm not worried about messing up good pieces of wood. my first particle board stock was actually MUCH stronger than i expected it to be, and the walnut stain made it look very nice.

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Thudthumper I really like your stock design! I like how you incorporated the pistol grip.
As for cutting the stock, perhaps try "slotting" that section (from the front of the trigger guard to the back of the grip) with the right sized fortener bit in a drill press. This method worked really well when I was slotting the trigger section of my QB-78 stock (it's all finished now by the way, I'm just waiting to borrow a digital camera).. WrongWay suggested the idea to me.

Good luck, I can't wait to see the final product!


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lol, i have an update. due to long hours in dusty conditions in a fairly cold basement at 3am, my rifle stock was...erm...converted from a one-piece design to a more conveinent 2 piece model.

i'm still using it, though. the router skipped on me and gashed part of the area above the trigger, so i decided to just cut that area completely out. this left the area directly above the trigger very thin, and when i couldn't get the thing to fit correctly my temper got the best of me. anyway, it still looks fairly nice in 2 pieces. i've got each piece mounted in 2 places for sturdiness.

Jester, i tried your method for the inletting, and it works great for areas that i can't get the router into. in fact, after the router upset me, i realized i didn't need it at all once i cut that section out.

i ended up cutting away most of the metal grip. i wish i had left a bit more of it...now i've got to figure out how to mount the sear spring. anyway, i'm having all kinds of fun, and i just mounted my bipid to the foregrip this evening. i need to take down the comb on the monte-carlo stock a bit so that it's comfortable, and i'm ready to start staining.

thanks for the input, all!

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very good i took your advice tried it and F**** my nice maghoney thumhole stock i made.. so i got another peice traced out the stock desighne and did the proper measurements for the inletting for the pistol grip this time i use a drill bit that was the exact same width and kinda lathed the litter out of it. and then i used a bastard file until the inside was all nice and smooth it still doesnt fit yet i have to do a bit for shaving and such before it fits in perfect, then i have to round the whole stock out
and drill the thumb hole and sand out the palm rests. and stain it..
thanks for you info

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Aaron, do you mean you messed up your stock with the router? Did you test the cuts on a scrap piece of wood first?

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actually i didnt even use a router. lol. but i made a way better one this afternoon 110% better, all i need to to is get rid of some of the nasty tool marks the file left behind when i was doing the thunmhole........
and i relized this after i cut and shaped the stock. there wa sabout a dime sized hole that was all rotting.. and it when in like 5mm in, i dug all that crap out and fill it with some wood filler should be dry by tomorrow
then im gonna sand it again, and stain it about 5 -6 times,( i like wood thats dark and looks old). then ill be all done.

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cool, i'm glad everything worked out well. i hate that your first one got messed up, but it sounds like this one is going to be really nice. looks like we might both be unveiling new works shortly! :wink:

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maybe not so soon, i was doing a bit more sanding and i dropped the stock and cracked the top of the thumbhole to where the inlet it for the handle, i was so pissed off, took me the longest time to make it then its gets cracked....(SOB).....anywho after i got all my composure again i used some wood glue and a C clamp and its drying right now.....

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:x it just hasn't been your day lately with stocks... lol, if it makes you feel better i've found 4 cracks in my stock so far, and i haven't even dropped it (yet)! mine isn't for looks though...i didn't bother to sand out the imperfections or many of my tooling marks. i think it gives it a rustic, aged look. (heh, my excuse to be lazy).

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i like the same thing you do . stocks that look old with some dings and scratches but are still alive with colour, but i mean these were deep scratches mine had and i had to get rid of them..... and what color of stain r u using..... dark dark reddish brown?

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actually, i'm using a birchwood casey kit that's probably about 35 years old, lol. it was dad's when he was 16, i think. i found it in the garage, and it seemed to work on my last stock so i'm using it on this one too. it has a walnut stain/filler, and i only put one coat on it so it'll be a fairly light brown when i'm done. the scratches are very dark, since the wood filler puddles in those areas, but again i actually like the look. it would probably disgust any serious wood worker, though. i guess the reason i like the scratches in there is because i use particle board, which is basically sawdust and glue, so my wood has no grain. the scratches give it some texture, which i like. the tru-oil really makes it look good, even with my lazy sanding.

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