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 Post subject: springer lube substitute
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:52 pm 
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Anyone know of a cost effective way to lube my springer?It's a little dry.I've heard of pelgunoil but is it just for co2 air guns?A substitute for pelgunoil I've heard is transmission fluid.Does pelgun oil work for springers too?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:30 pm 
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I know it is not a cost effective way to lube your springer but it is safe if done according to your owner's manual .

Crosman Break Barrel Silicone Chamber Oil
[RMCOIL] $7.99
http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/pro ... cts_id=111

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:05 pm 
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xuthal wrote:
A substitute for pelgunoil I've heard is transmission fluid.


You heard wrong. 20 or 30 weight NON-Detergent engine oil can be used. Cheaper by the quart. :wink: Non-detergent being the operative word when buying.
Rene is on the money with his advice on the silicone oil. 8) The best choice.

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Rene is on the money with his advice on the silicone oil. 8) The best choice.

Or not.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/th ... l+warnings


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:34 pm 
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Oiling Spring Airguns By Russ Best
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/library ... irguns.htm

All About Lubricants By Charlie
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/library ... icants.htm

Moly 60 Paste
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/library ... 0Paste.htm

Care and Feeding
http://www.beeman.com/care.htm

Spring Gun Tuning By B.B. Pelletier . . .
http://fuzzylimey.net/oddsnends/sprguntune.html

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The main point, which seems to be missed entirely in the "yellow" thread posted, is that using silicone oil in springers is NOT for the purpose of metal-to-metal lubrication- it is for synthetic piston seal to cylinder wall lubrication. Anyone who is "tuning" their springer using silicone oil in the back end behind the piston seal is not using it correctly. If anyone is pouring silicone oil in the chamber (i.e. more than a small drop or two) they are also mis-using the product and helping this "migration" issue.

If used correctly, silicone oil in a spring chamber for the purpose of lubing the piston seal and avoiding detonation/dieseling is appropriate. Drowning the combustion chamber with it or trying to lube the metal-to-metal parts with it is simply ignorance. But hey, we get none of that in the airgun world, right? :roll:

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I can't recall any of these lube discussions come to conclusion.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:37 am 
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Doc wrote:
I can't recall any of these lube discussions come to conclusion.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Back in 2008 over a period of more than a few months and few thousand rounds through a phantom. Lauchlin over a period of time tried to drown a piston in silicone lube. 8) When dismantled the seal looked better than new with no damage or gauling.
viewtopic.php?t=18246&highlight=silicone
viewtopic.php?t=18860&highlight=silicone

The above links of Lauchlins testing of silicone were taken from this thread but don't seem to work anymore????
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=23998&hilit=silicone&start=15

Fixed. Should work now. Had to add an s to the word forum. Must have changed during one of the upgrades.

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scruffie wrote:
Doc wrote:
I can't recall any of these lube discussions come to conclusion.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Back in 2008 over a period of more than a few months and few thousand rounds through a phantom. Lauchlin over a period of time tried to drown a piston in silicone lube. 8) When dismantled the seal looked better than new with no damage or gauling.
viewtopic.php?t=18246&highlight=silicone
viewtopic.php?t=18860&highlight=silicone

The above links of Lauchlins testing of silicone were taken from this thread but don't seem to work anymore????
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=23998&hilit=silicone&start=15

Fixed. Should work now. Had to add an s to the word forum. Must have changed during one of the upgrades.



And its still going strong .

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:13 am 
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And its still going strong .


See what I mean....he's still testing.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding.

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