Canadian Airgun Forum

CCC sec 84(1) --- prohibited weapon means
(a) a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife.

You have to figure it out from there. Maybe true or not, one Internet site claims "This part of the law has evolved into a test where police attempt to release the blade of a knife out of its handle with only one hand. If the knife's blade slides out, even slightly, the knife is considered to be a prohibited weapon."
https://legalbeagle.com/6659356-knife-laws-canada.html

Maybe true or not, Wiki has a more friendly definition stating ... "Manually-opened or 'one-handed' opening knives, including spring-assisted knives, that do not fall within the categories listed as prohibited weapons definition are legal to own and use, however importation of many of these items has been banned by the CBSA."

CBSA web site has some details under sec 20 & 21 at this link.
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publication ... .html#a4x2


I was trying to figure out if a spring assisted knife is prohibited. The CBSA interpretation seems to leave it a bit foggy. Probably best to just leave it in your pocket and shut up about it...lol.

CBSA Note: Knives that have a "thumb stud" attached to the blade of the knife, that is independent of the handle (not protruding from the handle in the closed or folded position), and that open automatically by applying pressure to the thumb stud, do not generally meet the above definition of a prohibited weapon, and as such do not generally fall under TI 9898.00.00. However, if such a knife is found to also open by gravity or by the application of centrifugal force (as per (b) centrifugal knife below) alone, it may still be considered to be prohibited.

(b) Centrifugal knife (folding knife, butterfly knife, balisong knife) – A centrifugal knife is one that has a blade that opens automatically by centrifugal force when the blade is released from the handle into the fully ejected and locked position with a simple and brisk outwardly flick of the wrist; and it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper, thumb stud or other non-edged parts of the blade.

Centrifugal force may be defined as a force, arising from the body's inertia, which appears to act on a body moving in a circular path and is directed away from the centre around which the body is moving. That is, centrifugal force is established when the blade of the knife may be opened with a flick of the wrist.
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publication ... .html#a4x2

Thais part of the sentence is critical.

" Centrifugal knife (folding knife, butterfly knife, balisong knife) – A centrifugal knife is one that has a blade that opens automatically by centrifugal force when the blade is released from the handle into the fully ejected and locked position with a simple and brisk outwardly flick of the wrist; and it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper, thumb stud or other non-edged parts of the blade."

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Daryl

it would be a sweet justice to have a stud-less knife come across the border, in the same shipment as some of these.

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We want a reduction to crime, violence and gun smuggling,
- they want a reduction in legal gun ownership.

Tracey Wilson, CCFR

Yah, that's exactly what I was looking at (your bolded part). But the paragraph above that one seems to indicate a thumb-stud opening blade is okay. Oddly, most blades with some physical weight can be opened quickly by flicking the wrist once the stud is moved a bit. You can either flip them open by just applying pressure to the stud or you can greatly speed up the opening with a wrist flick. It makes as much sense as some of our gun laws. Maybe these knives are not prohibited if we do not add speed to opening by flipping the wrist (centrifugal force). "centrifugal force is established when the blade of the knife may be opened with a flick of the wrist".

"Knives that have a "thumb stud" attached to the blade of the knife, that is independent of the handle (not protruding from the handle in the closed or folded position), and that open automatically by applying pressure to the thumb stud, do not generally meet the above definition of a prohibited weapon, and as such do not generally fall under TI 9898.00.00. However, if such a knife is found to also open by gravity or by the application of centrifugal force (as per centrifugal knife below) alone, it may still be considered to be prohibited."

Yeah- do not generally meet - however the sentence from the customs agents says otherwise - for entry into Canada.
"manipulation with a thumb stud". What does that mean to you?
That's how my bro has been operating his pocket knife for 30 years, flick with his thumb - and it's open. Bought it right here.
I can't get my thumb to do it correctly - oh well. I prefer my Leatherman for every day use or a real knife for the tough stuff.
That Gerber skinning axe is handy.

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Best Wishes
Daryl

Except that is not part of the law. It is from the CBSA.

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson.

look at me! steering us back on topic...

*our KWC BB 1911s are not a replica (of a) firearm.. they are a (uncontrolled) firearm...
*in the Big House, a left-over bar of soap carved to replicate a 1911 firearm.. but is really just a bar of soap w shoe polish..is a Replica (of a) Firearm and illegal and will net you more time.

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We want a reduction to crime, violence and gun smuggling,
- they want a reduction in legal gun ownership.

Tracey Wilson, CCFR

WOW - BIG bar of soap.
Point taken.
Of course, C21 changes all that if it passes.

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Best Wishes
Daryl

https://youtu.be/MF0jo_iTV8o

CCFR talking about the possibility of 50% of all guns in Canada being covered by the ban, and possible costs.

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson.

Yes C21 will make a lot of airguns, prohibited and no longer be able to be sold/transferred/imported/exported.

Let's hope that stuff like this gets removed from the bill, in a compromise to get it passed.

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"I went to god just to see, and I was looking at me" - Marilyn Manson, "The Reflecting God" (1996).

Lets hope the whole thing dies.

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Yes indeed. What a bloody nightmare if it doesn't die. How can they possibly enforce it - they can't.
But - it will still have value for virtue signalling, which started and has been perfected since 2015.
"we've taken all of the assault weapons off the street & made it safer for you, aren't we great!"
bloody farce

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Best Wishes
Daryl

NFA release:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WepfVTm ... ssociation

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Best Wishes
Daryl

Most of this I saw coming 10yrs ago, even the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution is being watered down. I could go on but fear I could get too in depth with politics.

There is talk that Alberta is looking into putting in place their own Firearms Officer? We will see?

I believe huge change is coming in 2023 or 2024? It is obvious, Politicians no longer speak for the majority......USA will have to make the first move and Canada will likely follow?

Alberta already has their own firearms officer.

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson.