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 Post subject: Best value air pistols?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:48 pm 
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I've posted a Wanted ad but I suppose some discussion wouldn't hurt. For those of us who want to get into target pistols but can't commit to a fancy PCP gun, what are the best options out there for less than $100? $200? $300? Etc. I've read the Daisy 747 is good value, and same with the Weihrauch HW40, but what if you don't even want to spend $200?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:07 pm 
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Easy - the P17 is by far the best deal for a target pistol.

For under $50 you get an over lever; single pump pneumatic based on the venerable HW40A that performs at nearly the same level of accuracy for a fraction of the cost!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:21 pm 
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Beeman P17. No target pistol, but it can outshoot beginners and most other air gunners. $60. Decent sights, Decent trigger, many have modded them with longer (better?) barrels. Not a target pistol expert by any means, but from what I have read, the 747 is a solid pistol and I doubt there would be anything much cheaper that would have "Target" or "Match" in its name. From what I can see, you won't get one of those for less than $350 Cdn all told.

Edit: Whoops, Doug was faster on the draw.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:41 pm 
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Yup, it's the p17 at $50 ish, the Daisy 747 at $200, the IZH 46M at $500 and the Air Arm Alfa Sport at $750, and then the exotic stuff that I try not to look at because it gives me a fever. The Tau 7 Match at about $800 is a slightly odd option in that it's CO2, and while it's reputed to be an excellent pistol, it's a lot of money to pay for CO2 when everyone seems to have agreed that PCP is the better way to go. Another option is to get a 2240 and modify it for target use, but it's a time and money sink that will quickly run up $300 and more. The Crosman 1701 was available from scopes and ammo for a while, but looks like it is out of stock now. That's one of the cheapest pcp pistols at around $450, but the shot count per fill is a bit low.

So, below $200, you don't have a lot of choices. Buy 2 p17s and you'll have a spare (said in jest, but I may get a second some day for just that reason). The sights are the weakest link for serious target shooting, they don't adjust repeatably and they tend to shift in use.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:24 am 
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Good to know about the P17. Shame there's nothing in the $100 range. I should also note that my shooting hand is very small by adult standards. (I cannot properly hold a Glock 17 one-handed, for example) The 747 seems to have better ergonomics than the P17, and nicer sights, too. I just missed a good deal on one for sale here on the forum so I'll have to keep my eyes out. I'm sure I'll end up with a P17 anyways for friends to use.


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The P17 is 1/4 the price of the 747. Pick one up and try it. I'd be happy to sell you one for $100 if that's what it takes :P


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Buy a 2240 ($69.99) and a lw barrel ($82.99)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:04 am 
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Skanzy wrote:
Buy a 2240 ($69.99) and a lw barrel ($82.99)


And a steel breech, the Williams notch sights, and a muzzle brake with front sight...


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EverHopeful wrote:
Skanzy wrote:
Buy a 2240 ($69.99) and a lw barrel ($82.99)


And a steel breech, the Williams notch sights, and a muzzle brake with front sight...


And target grips from who knows where for $100-200.

And trigger mechanism polishing for a an approximate faux competition trigger kinda for $50

And a trigger shoe to eliminate the rough-edge feel of the stock trigger for $10-20


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I have been wondering the same thing myself.

How does the Webely Alecto stand up? It has an Adjustable trigger, adjustable grip shelf, adjustable sights, and a 1~3 pump power range. It seems to me that if you want an economy target pistol, this might be the best value.

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David-E-D wrote:
I have been wondering the same thing myself.

How does the Webely Alecto stand up? It has an Adjustable trigger, adjustable grip shelf, adjustable sights, and a 1~3 pump power range. It seems to me that if you want an economy target pistol, this might be the best value.


Sure - if you consider $300+ a "best value"...

https://www.replicaairguns.ca/webley-an ... -air-rifle

I think the Beeman P17 still wins - hands down!

http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/pro ... stol-p-339

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:01 pm 
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...Is the Gamo Compact still in production ? I believe Gamo also has a P45 (?) pneumatic.....I've never been able to find one in Canada, so price is a mystery..............


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Interesting, I hadn't heard of the PR45 before, and I can't find it on their website, but it's listed on several UK websites.

The gamo compact seems to get very positive reviews from it's owners. I thought it was discontinued, but I see it is still on their website, although the option to buy it is not available.


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thumper wrote:
...Is the Gamo Compact still in production ? I believe Gamo also has a P45 (?) pneumatic.....I've never been able to find one in Canada, so price is a mystery..............

I have a P45 that I got in the early 90's. I don't think they are available any longer.


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EverHopeful wrote:
The Crosman 1701 was available from scopes and ammo for a while, but looks like it is out of stock now. That's one of the cheapest pcp pistols at around $450, but the shot count per fill is a bit low.
Jim


50-55 shots at 440-460-ish as issued by the factory, before the t.p. , rva , and hammer stroke adjustments are even touched.
I don't fill mine to the 3 K max either- she's happiest at 2.4-2.6 K with a bit more level string, and the afore mentioned 50-55 shot count. The bell curve has a very steep climb at 3K psi...

Just kind of curious as to where the low shot count info comes from?

Mine at -8 C is still good for 46 shots...

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