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http://store.prophetriver.com/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-master-single-stage-press-kit/

I was so very tempted with this offer today. Bonus $75 USD mail in rebate over that sale price.
Starting to like the Greenreloaderade
Any comments about this units price point and features?

Going to think long and hard on this one.
I have absolutely no idea how much time would be involved with this setup.
As some have said, whats the rush? Reloading can be meditative and relaxing.

Pros :

Its a given that I will be getting better quality control with a single stage.
Having learned about Hornady's brilliant Lock-N-Load adaptors made the single stage even more appealing.
And if I am not mistaken if its a standard 1-1/4" threaded die. Most other makers like Lyman, Lee, Hornady, and RCBS will fit. Never did find out about Dillons setup. Only that the SDB dies were proprietary.
Long and short cases will be covered and thats a nice bonus.

Cons: Time consumption.

Hmmmmmmm...... it boils down to how much pistol ammo will I really be needing in the future.

MM

I havve seen that offer from them before,could not beat it[for a great single stage]
For high volume handgun, I would go Dhillon 550 no doubt though..kelly

Made myself a de-primer tool last night and had to test it out.



Did some trials with different formulas for the ultrasonic cleaner.
And learned the hard way that small batches work better than one big pile in the tank.
From now on I will only drop in max 50 at each time.







All I can say is that this has taught me that I am not a fan of single stage process.
Will attach a pivoting lever bar and return spring to it soon.
Primers are now all over my shops floor. Maybe a catching tube of some sort would be wise too. That tray only caught 75%.

But I must say that the primer pockets came out really nice and clean.


MM

clean brass is the best but I get lazy with pistol and just tumble and dust off now lol.
.223 gets special treatment.

who doesn't love clean brass

nice decap tool. I use my presses to decap and it keeps my primers nice and neat in tubes.

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Rodney

question to the veteran reloader's.

how do you folks clean your press. right now I have been wiping down the unit with G96 gun oil and I wanted to spray down my dies to clean them up but worried about contaminating them.

I am wondering if there is a better alternative without me running to LeBaron for more supplies.

I have G96, Hoppes Lubricant, WD40, Case Lubricant from Lyman, Lee, and Hornady Oneshot.

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Rodney

Now and then, I wipe off and re-lube the ram - maybe every couple years. That is probably why I wear them out - from fouling dust abrading the cast iron base.
I've never "cleaned" a press.

Too- I have never needed to clean my dies. After loading they go back into their respective boxes - or the last used (seater) sits in the press until it's time to load some more- then out it comes and in goes the sizer die. I don't clean anything until it's dirty - like my shorts - HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

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Daryl

guess I am doing okay then Hahaha.

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Rodney

That was my general drift, Rodney- they need little care.

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Daryl

I have fallen into the blue rabbit hole and paid for the Dillon today, should be here early next week.
After having a good long chat with John @ CRS. His recommendation was to go with the SDB auto indexing over the 550.
And he had many sound reasons. (mainly in the crimping department) For true performance get a single stage, its is hard to beat for longer cases.
And also for future necking down of 308 cases to 7mm-08.

Must put in a good word for John P. at Custom Reloading Service. http://www.customreloadingservice.com/
He is a very patient and informative person, generous with his time while I asked my 101 questions.
Such a humble and down to earth fellow. The same can be said for his son Brad.
They will be my one stop shopping location for reloading supplies.

MM

Has anyone tried this program?

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp

My 9mm comes out to $0.18 each taxes included.
(124gr with 4gr TightGroup) I have heard someone at the range say that they can bump theirs down to 0.11 -0.16 each.
I wonder what combinations managed to get them that great price.

Saving of $0.12 over my regular purchase of reloaded ammo at CRS. ($0.30ea)
40% savings by my calculations. I hope that this savings will pay of the press soon...
I was told it will take just over 10,000 rounds to pay if off.

MM

A pound of powder $17.00 - what country is that in? Sry -

Here, it's in the $35.00+ range
Bullets are free if cast with scrounged lead.
Brass is free - pick it up of the floor of the pistol shed - No one here seems to load 9mm.

So - powder at 5gr. per load is $0.025 per shot at $35.00 per pound.

Primers are, we'll say $5.00 per hundred, so $0.05

Thus, handloaded 9mm should be $0.08 per rounded up from 7 1/2 cents. Maybe my math is out?

At $5.00 per 50 box of decent .22 LR ammo, that's .10 each.

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Daryl

[quote="187_cuteness"]question to the veteran reloader's.

how do you folks clean your press

Just keep the rust off it. Wipe it down when it looks dirty and keep it lubed.

Been a reloader for 50 years. Started with a Lyman spartan press, still have it. Wore out the first ram and replaced it. Used a rockchucker for the last 20+ years. Only single stage for me. Stay with cast iron. I broke three aluminum presses.

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Theory is when you know how something works, but it doesn't.
Practice is when something works, but you don't know why.
In my shop, Theory and Practice are combined!
Nothing works and I don't know why.

Two lathes and too many projects

Yes bullets are the biggest cost factor in reloading ($0.12 each Berrys 124gr)
4gr T.G. ($0.02) + Primers ($0.05) = $0.07 is just amazing.
Someone is raking a huge profit when they charge over $20 for a box of 50 rns. ($0.45 each after taxes)
I bet manufacturers can produce it for less than $0.10 ea.

Do you cast with wheel weights by chance. Have not seen anyone who uses cast 9mm at the range.
The tire shops around here give away theirs to fishermen. Otherwise they had been throwing it in the dumpster.
I was not too pleased to have heard that.

Time to look into casting die manufacturer. Any recommendations?

MM

I have an RCBS RC2 and a Lee loadmaster. The RC2 is for rifle and magnum pistol loading,
and the Lee is for 9 and 45. The Lee works well for me, I have the latest primer feeders in
it and once I'm set up its pretty good.
For maintainance the Lee has grease fittings and then ill wipe them both down with 30wt.
Nothing special.

Yes - WW make perfect bullets for powder burners - as long as you don't get any zinc WW in the mix. Zinc will ruin the entire melt & can get into the pores in the pot as well and leach out for years, which ruins the pot as well. Zinc WW LOOK like zinc, feel like zinc and clink like zinc. Some guys still manage to miss them and then suffer the consequences. Do not put zinc in with your melt.

Again, WW make perfect handgun bullets. Too - WW bullets, normally in the 9 to 13 brinel range depending on who made them, can be hardened up to brinel 32 if you want. Dead soft copper is brinel 35. Lynotype, (Printing Type Metal) which is almost extinct now, is 22 brinel and considered VERY hard. You can harden ordinary WW bullets, up to brinel 32 quite easily - 34 if you want, but is more difficult due to the process & temperatures needed, being very precise.

The nice thing about really hard WW bullets, is they don't become brittle, like Lynotype, which is quite soft, in comparison - but brittle. Hardened WW bullets make terrific FMJ's - without needing jackets and cores.

Any handgun bullets can be case.

Truncated cone shaped bullets are most popular with 9mm shooters here. Many of the guys buy these from "The Bullet Barn" in the Fraser Valley - B.C. A box of 500 usually costs around the $50.00 range, or so- ie: about .010" each.

Casting your own can pay for the equipment in no time - if you shoot a lot.

Lee moulds are cheap and come in 6 cavity as well as double and single cavity.

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Daryl