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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:41 am 
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What is the air leaking sound sometimes when you cock the P17? Is that a bad sound and leading to trouble?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:26 am 
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I like my 1322 (with 14 inch barrel) much. But I don't have a P17.

After having the 1322, all my other co2 guns are sit aside on the rack. The pumper is actually very convenient for me to put some shots at anytime I want...

But I am looking for a 2240 at the same time.

And I think buying a 13xx / 2240, you have to plan to spend more money on it. Otherwise, it's better to get a better rifle or other better gun in a higher price range.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:27 am 
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wheeliehd wrote:
What is the air leaking sound sometimes when you cock the P17? Is that a bad sound and leading to trouble?


WHD,

Is the "air sound" at the end of opening the over lever (for loading), or does it appear on the closing position to cock (charging the cylinder)?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:07 pm 
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Theo98 wrote:
wheeliehd wrote:
What is the air leaking sound sometimes when you cock the P17? Is that a bad sound and leading to trouble?


WHD,

Is the "air sound" at the end of opening the over lever (for loading), or does it appear on the closing position to cock (charging the cylinder)?

Ted

Air sound is on opening the over lever.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:41 pm 
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wheeliehd wrote:
Air sound is on opening the over lever.


Both my P17's make a light suction "swishing" sound just as the piston is almost fully extended. This is normal, as there is a small hole near the open end of the cylinder (look under the extended piston) that allows air to rush in and refill the cylinder void, ready for cocking and charging the new air for the next round.

If your P17 is firing perfectly otherwise, then you should be good to go! :D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:13 pm 
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419 and 427 FPS when I just tried it. Only took the two shots. Took it apart and seen the hole. Cleaned around the seal and a dab of moly. Did order a seal kit for it just in case. Guess I never noticed the rush of air the first 100 shots. Guess my arms got stronger cocking the pistol because it seemed easier. :lol: Certainly never lost its POI. Best shooting pistol out of ten I own. Thinking of buying a second one to leave out at my trailer for play time. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:57 am 
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is there any maintenance to do to these guns like a drop of pellgun oil any where inside or out after using it over a period of time.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:24 am 
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pete wrote:
is there any maintenance to do to these guns like a drop of pellgun oil any where inside or out after using it over a period of time.


LUBE - Periodically apply a couple of drops of Pellgun Oil or 30W-ND motor oil (same thing) to the pump o-ring. The easiest way to do this is smear the oil on the open piston and do some shooting or prop the pistol so muzzle is pointing upwards. The o-ring is just a simple #117 nitrile (buna-N) that you can get at a hydraulics shop. Some people use a 116. I went to buy a couple of 117 last week and also some 009 for the breach. The guy at the parts department didn't even want to bother with money. He picked them out of the bins and gave them to me. Seals are cheap.

You could also coax a drop of Pellgun Oil on the trigger pivot points but that would mean removing to right grip panel. It will still be fine if you leave them alone.

I use the 30W-ND oil because a litre costs less than a tiny tube of Pellgun oil. It's also the same product. The Pellgun Oil has a red dye added by the manufacturer (Lubrication Engineers). I use Slick 50 One-Lube for the barrel. It needs to be a rubber friendly oil. Even the Pellgun Oil will work for the barrel but it's thick.

CLEAN - You can periodically clean the barrel with q-tips. Cut the fluffy end off the q-tip, wet it with oil and shoot it down the barrel. Shoot a couple this way. Follow with a few dry q-tip tips. They are a perfect fit for cleaning.

REPLACE - The breach seal can get nicked if you don't push your pellets flush with the barrel. It's a cheap 009 Nitrile (Buna-N) size. If you are careful you an get one to last for years. The piston seal should be fine for many years too. However, the original Chinese seals can sometimes fall apart and leak. It's simple and cheap to replace them with better quality o-rings. There are 2 other o-ring seals on the valve stem (006 & 008). They seem to last but if you are making a trip to get the other 2 then just add them to your list for about 25 cents each. Four seals in all ... 006, 008, 009, 116/117.

SUMMARY - There isn't much more to maintain. Lube piston o-ring, change seals when needed, periodically clean and lightly oil barrel. I would recommend shooting an oily q-tip through the barrel if you were to store the pistol for a longer time. Shoot a clean tip through the barrel before your next shooting session. The P17 is about the simplest airgun to maintain.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:08 am 
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pete wrote:
is there any maintenance to do to these guns like a drop of pellgun oil any where inside or out after using it over a period of time.


Pete,

According to the owners manual, appears minimal maintenance is recommended (see pic).

The only "service" I've done so far is to "very lightly apply" some TW25 synthetic grease to the stamped metal trigger component "contact points" (sears-pins-hammer-trigger screw).

I've owned the P17's for just 2-months. However, Todd's post above Covers it All! He's had his for "7 years" with real-world experience...I'd follow His advice!! :!:

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thanks guys.


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Today I had the P17 out shooting at 50 yards again. There was a very mild wind movement but some of the groups were still very acceptable. Sometimes I had a flyer but I report the groups with and without the flyers. JSB Exact pellets again. Below are the 10-shot group descriptions. My target spot was tacked high on the page but at 50 yards my shots hit down at the bottom.

P17 @ 50 yards
Group #1 - Best group - 10 shots at 3.30" ctc
Group #2 -10 shots at 5.53"... but 9 were at 4.00" ctc
Group #3 - 10 shots at 6 1/8" ... but 9 were at 4 7/8" ctc
Group #4 - 10 at 5 3/4" ... but 9 were at 4 3/16" ctc


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:04 pm 
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why would anyone try grouping with a P17 out to 50Yrds ..thats 150ft... :?
even at 50ft its difficult to get a decent grouping with the P17, so im not sure why anyone
would push the P17 out that far, short barrel low velocity the pellets barely make it to the paper lol... :roll:

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Ace wrote:
why would anyone try grouping with a P17 out to 50Yrds ..thats 150ft... :?...


Hehe :lol:...IMHO, because Todd Can! :mrgreen:

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Yep! Why not if you can get those kinds of groups [emoji4]?!
Shooting at 10 yards can get pretty boring, nice to try something crazy once in awhile!


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Theo98 wrote:
Ace wrote:
why would anyone try grouping with a P17 out to 50Yrds ..thats 150ft... :?...


Hehe :lol:...IMHO, because Todd Can! :mrgreen:

Ted

lol...rested anyone can.... :roll: :lol: :wink:

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