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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:36 am 
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I wonder how many Attack Helicopters have been registered.


I just wasted 5 whole minutes on that website..... whyyyyyyyyyyy??

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Join a Canadian a advocacy groupe. CFFR, CSSA ! The general public have some scarry ideas of what we shooting enthusiast are.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:39 am 
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Join a Canadian a advocacy groupe. CFFR, CSSA ! The general public have some scarry ideas of what we shooting enthusiast are.


I don't even have a criminal record, never been arrested. But I became a criminal over night twice by the RCMP. Had friends have their guns stripped from them. To just have another government over turn. Then back on the chopping block. Guns that NEVER EVER been used in a crime in Canada. Yet they are the problem.

And if they ban handguns. 3 times. Liberals make up facts, and have no idea. Media is there to make people fear to think it's worst then it is. Toronto Police Cheif say 50% increase in gun crime. But the number wasn't even half that.

Problem is gun owners are divided. You got the sport shooters, then you got the hunters throwing the sport shooters under the bus. Because they don't care about handguns and other firearms. Because they're not going to go after the hunting rifles and shotguns. But they're wrong. I see that at the club meetings of my gun club. Then complaining about wanting to extend the pistol range or indoor range upgrades and vote against. Because they don't want to pay more for range membership to shoot their 3 rounds a year.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:10 am 
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leadslinger wrote:
Hillbilly wrote:
Join a Canadian a advocacy groupe. CFFR, CSSA ! The general public have some scarry ideas of what we shooting enthusiast are.


I don't even have a criminal record, never been arrested. But I became a criminal over night twice by the RCMP. Had friends have their guns stripped from them. To just have another government over turn. Then back on the chopping block. Guns that NEVER EVER been used in a crime in Canada. Yet they are the problem.

And if they ban handguns. 3 times. Liberals make up facts, and have no idea. Media is there to make people fear to think it's worst then it is. Toronto Police Cheif say 50% increase in gun crime. But the number wasn't even half that.

Problem is gun owners are divided. You got the sport shooters, then you got the hunters throwing the sport shooters under the bus. Because they don't care about handguns and other firearms. Because they're not going to go after the hunting rifles and shotguns. But they're wrong. I see that at the club meetings of my gun club. Then complaining about wanting to extend the pistol range or indoor range upgrades and vote against. Because they don't want to pay more for range membership to shoot their 3 rounds a year.


I like how the RCMP declared 80% receivers prohibited as someone might build one to be select fire. This was done without any act of congress, and no law being passed.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:17 am 
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paddyfritz wrote:
leadslinger wrote:
Hillbilly wrote:
Join a Canadian a advocacy groupe. CFFR, CSSA ! The general public have some scarry ideas of what we shooting enthusiast are.


I don't even have a criminal record, never been arrested. But I became a criminal over night twice by the RCMP. Had friends have their guns stripped from them. To just have another government over turn. Then back on the chopping block. Guns that NEVER EVER been used in a crime in Canada. Yet they are the problem.

And if they ban handguns. 3 times. Liberals make up facts, and have no idea. Media is there to make people fear to think it's worst then it is. Toronto Police Cheif say 50% increase in gun crime. But the number wasn't even half that.

Problem is gun owners are divided. You got the sport shooters, then you got the hunters throwing the sport shooters under the bus. Because they don't care about handguns and other firearms. Because they're not going to go after the hunting rifles and shotguns. But they're wrong. I see that at the club meetings of my gun club. Then complaining about wanting to extend the pistol range or indoor range upgrades and vote against. Because they don't want to pay more for range membership to shoot their 3 rounds a year.


I like how the RCMP declared 80% receivers prohibited as someone might build one to be select fire. This was done without any act of congress, and no law being passed.


See they banned those Troy replica XM177. Because engraved auto with a fake sear pin molded into the lower. But it's not even close to where it needs to be. They said it's a guide for someone to drill it out..

RCMP just were found guilty of trying to enforce rules, not even passed yet with Bill C71.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:30 am 
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We need to ditch the RCMP.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:38 am 
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We need to ditch the RCMP.


We need to ditch their powers to make any rules. I have a police friend that refuses to work for the RCMP because their policy sucks.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:30 pm 
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As far as the laws go, there are already too many laws that are not being enforced properly. We do not need MORE laws.
The laws/charges now in use have little or no backing by the courts. The Canadian Attorney General Allen Rock stated it best, when he said
"Too many criminals are already spending too much time behind bars. We need to get them back on the street to become productive (what did he mean by that?) citizens".
The SOP - "standard operating procedure" of any Socialist government, is to increase the size and control of government by creating more laws.
That goal is more laws passed that automatically make previous law abiding citizens into criminals. This causes increased "crime statistics" which shows cause & need for
an ever greater Government control and more laws.
This is quite simply, normal socialist politics - huge government, ultimately having or attempting to have total control.
Working well in NKorea, at least for the ruler, not so much for the people.

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This view just indeed deep enough to explain this strange circle what our government and the Leader doing....

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:23 pm 
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We're drifting a little close to the line, guys.
Topic is the survey and the government's potential move to ban handguns.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:36 am 
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Please complete the survey so that maybe it wont be flooded with comments in favor of banning handguns and "assault" rifles (their term) https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cnsl ... ex-en.aspx


Did awhile back. But I don’t think the handgun ban will fly. Just a guess. But further on that I can’t see Canadian tire, Cabela’s , other outfitters pulling off the shelf all those pellet hand guns off the shelf because they resemble a hand gun that are less 500fps. It’s a multi million dollar industry that is taxed. But it’s just a guess.

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B-Aube wrote:
paddyfritz wrote:
Please complete the survey so that maybe it wont be flooded with comments in favor of banning handguns and "assault" rifles (their term) https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cnsl ... ex-en.aspx


Did awhile back. But I don’t think the handgun ban will fly. Just a guess. But further on that I can’t see Canadian tire, Cabela’s , other outfitters pulling off the shelf all those pellet hand guns off the shelf because they resemble a hand gun that are less 500fps. It’s a multi million dollar industry that is taxed. But it’s just a guess.


They are talking about firearms not uncontrolled airguns.

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Yup understand that. Just adding to the discussion. Think air guns are safe. Just providing some guesses. If they did do a ban what may happen if the government over thinks it. Wouldn’t be the first time they went too far on something eh?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:16 am 
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Don't assume airguns are safe. Just last week, there was a robbery and guy used a Beeman P17. Replica styles ones been on the radar for awhile, since you cannot tell which is which in the time you need to react. They're not going to stop at handguns. They want a total BAN. Bill C71 and such just the start of it.

They would ban handguns like they did with the 12X classification. Slowly just stopped issuing out STATT. Thus not allowing them to leave the house. That way they don't need to pay any money out as compensation. Or spend any money on police resources going after them.

Because we all know a piece of paper stops criminals.


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