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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:00 am 
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Hi all:

Ok, I admit that my aiming isn't the best as I need more practice and just as well getting used to the different models of guns that I have.

On saying that....I"m curious what would be the best way to determine if the aim/shooting accuracy of a gun is on point? Given what I said above, if a gun is shooting high or low, it could very well be that I'm terrible at aiming - shaky hands and all, so the front and rear target sights are in fact perfectly fine.

I guess the most accurate way is to mount the gun on some device or something, ensuring that it's level and the front/rear target sights are perfectly positioned to the target - ie. Center of a Bulls Eye, and then take the shot and see where the BB/Pellet hits.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:40 am 
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This is part of the fun. To get a baseline you want to remove human error out of the equation as much as possible. So a rest. Springer can be tricky as hold tends to be very important. Clamping a springer down can produce worse results and you might find a roller or soft padded type of rest better. PCP or co2, just clamp her up and track your shot strings. Try as many different pellets as possible. May take years to find a hold and pellet combo that works well for you.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:42 am 
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I use a bore sighter laser and adjust my sight to it, followed by actual shooting and then adjustment again.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:56 am 
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I thought of the same......might be worthwhile investment. How do you keep the gun steady while you adjust the sights?

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I use a bore sighter laser and adjust my sight to it, followed by actual shooting and then adjustment again.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:18 am 
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Action co2 pistols are born not as accurate as the competition grade guns. And most of them even don't comes with an adjustable rear sight.

An easy way to do so in the house, just find a rest, a chair, a big box, a table... And a pillow etc... Anything let you can hold the gun stable on top of it with a comfortable pose to you, and put your target on the same level... Adjust your breath, and pull the trigger...

Aim at the same bullseye, make a 3 shots group, and see where the POI ( point of impact) against the POA ( point of aim)...

And adjust your sight 's windage / elevation to move the POI onto the POA...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:05 am 
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Sorry I hate using my phone..

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Rest the gun and zero that way. But if you're shooting free handed and it groups in any one of those blocks. Its give you an idea what you're doing wrong.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:57 am 
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That's really cool! Never seen that before:)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:14 pm 
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:D this is really good and Interesting ~

I must print it put and give it a try!

Is that for free standing pose on handguns only right? And for powder burners and blow back air pistols, not for SSP, springer pistols, right? Because those looks need different handling...

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YepYep wrote:
:D this is really good and Interesting ~

I must print it put and give it a try!

Is that for free standing pose on handguns only right? And for powder burners and blow back air pistols, not for SSP, springer pistols, right? Because those looks need different handling...

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You don't need to print it off. It's just a reference to look at. You can shoot at a blank piece of paper with a dot. The concept the same. If grouping is mainly at 6 o clock. Then you look at the chart. 2 o clock etc.

It's for any handgun. The basic fundamentals are all pretty much the same.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:08 pm 
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Isn't that easier to shoot directly onto the chart to see what's wrong? :D

Maybe not a good idea as I just think of the holes will just shoot off what you going to read ~ lol

And why the groups on 6 o'clock, you need to check the opposited 2 o'clock?

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YepYep wrote:
And why the groups on 6 o'clock, you need to check the opposited 2 o'clock?

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I didn't say that... I said if it shoots 6 o clock, check the reference. Shoots 2 o clock, etc etc etc.

Why would you shoot 6 o clock and check 2 o clock? The picture is just a reference, like a clock to check.


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If grouping is mainly at 6 o clock. Then you look at the chart. 2 o clock etc.


;)

It's my fault... I over see the little ' . ' following 'the chart' in front of '2 o'clock'....

So I have the same question why need to check 2 o'clock...


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leadslinger wrote:
Sorry I hate using my phone..

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Rest the gun and zero that way. But if you're shooting free handed and it groups in any one of those blocks. Its give you an idea what you're doing wrong.


If the gun is accurately sighted for the perfect hold, that is.

Some guns, like S&W issue revolvers with fixed sights, model 10's at any rate 5" and 6", do shoot to the sights with factory 158RN's - seemingly for everyone, if the shooter doesn't screw it up.
Most guns do not shoot the same for everyone. LOL - part of the fun 'n games.
Mil Spec 1911's also seem to, with hard-ball ammo.
Air Guns??? that's a good question.

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YepYep wrote:
leadslinger wrote:
If grouping is mainly at 6 o clock. Then you look at the chart. 2 o clock etc.


So I have the same question why need to check 2 o'clock...


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You're over thinking it way way too hard. It's very basic. 2 o clock was just another example. You check your target with the reference chart. To determine what you're doing wrong. To make corrections.


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Using your brain more to avoid Alzheimer's disease.... ;)

But what I have is the eyes' issue to see the two sentences into one... :D

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