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 Post subject: old(er) guy hunting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:15 pm 
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Hello there,
Hunting with shotgun (birds and a bit of trap), deer with a rifle & , crossbow, number of years. Keen on target shooting in the past.

Bushwhacking last week to get my deer tag filled I came across several grouses that I could bring to the table, but shooting a shot shell through rifled barrel would end my effort to stalk a deer.
One of my hunting buddies mentioned an air pistol , and so I got myself Crosman 1377 and started target practice, the standard sights would be useless with the forest background, so I'm thinking of red dot, or found among numerous accessories fiber optic sights, front and back that would for sure make a positive difference (have a Bushnell red dot on my deer gun and love it).
Any experiences/tips on hunting small game with an air pistol?, and particularly this Crosman Classic?
Thanks,
Kaz
p.s.have a Diana 52, bought years ago, and could never find out a reason for a v.poor performance. But that would be my next question another day.


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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:36 pm 
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Looks the fact would disappoint you... By the law, in Canada I don't think you can get an air pistol has enough power for hunting, even like grouses, except it just a few yards from you...

At least less than 4Ft.Lb a stock 1377 will have much less power for that...

Maybe try a bigger caliber, 1322, with some mods, it will be easily close to the limit, sub 500 fps, and can give you about 7 to 8 Ft.lb power for tiny games or small games if you can do very accurate shots in a very close distance...

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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:59 pm 
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Yep, the 1322 works pretty well for grouse, my dad has shot quite a few with it. You need to shoot them from behind so the feathers don't deflect the pellet. 1377 might not have enough oomph unless you get a head shot.
Putting a 25 calibre barrel on a 1322 or 1377 and getting a power valve and flat top piston would work well for grouse. The pp700sa pcp pistol would be another great choice. Raman from Canadashootingsupply.ca and myself have an order shipping out next week. Pump it up in the morning and you've got 80 or so regulated shots for the day!


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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:54 pm 
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Oh, maybe a Alecto .25 if you can find one...

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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
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thanks for chipping in Gents, still reading;
for starters I'll put a steel breech, power valve and flat top piston, red dot and will see how it works.
Don't think I'll shoot further then 10-15y, head shots only if I see target shooting warranties that.


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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
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pp700sa would be a good option but more then 500fps is no no by the regulations for air pistols.


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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
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That's the trouble with the 1377 and 1322 as well. By the regulations they're still considered a pistol, even with a longer barrel and the stock, so you're pretty much illegal over 500fps. That's why I mentioned switching to .25 caliber, as it gives a lot more hitting power at 500fps than in 177 or 22. You could do the same with the pp700sa as well.

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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
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Check your game regulations. In some Provinces, it is illegal to hunt grouse or anything else with handgun. That 'might' include air guns.

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 Post subject: Re: old(er) guy hunting
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Back when I first started a/g hunting, I used a more or less stock 22-89 with a Tasco RD 30-22. My pellet was the old 14.3 gr. RWS super point, and it did a credible job on grouse at 15 yds and closer. Head and neck shots were what I used. It can be done with-in the 500 fps regulation, but there are far better choices out there.


A 13-22 with a 14.75" bbl and packer stock is stil a fairly small package. My choice for a red dot would be on the small side- something like the bushnell trs 25....


.177 Polymag Predators are every bit as lethal on grouse as the .22 cal Predators~ providing you can place your shots....


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