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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:58 pm 
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I recently acquired this absolutely gorgeous Brocock Concept Super 6 PCP, and couldn't be happier with the looks and performance of this gun!

One strange thing however ...... this model does not have a conventional safety lever per se, instead, the bold is drawn all the way back and locked down in the slot provided. This works great but one must be very careful not to accidentally knock it up off this position without firmly grasping the bolt, otherwise, the bolt will spring forward, pushing the pellet probe (and pellet if a loaded magazine is in place) into the chamber and striking the hammer, causing the rifle to discharge.

Wondering if this is a design flaw, adjustment issue or a defect -would be great if any other members who are owners of this model or similar with same action could chime in with their thoughts?

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:04 pm 
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Best safety is the one between your ears.

I'd rather carry un-cocked and clear chamber than depend on a mechanical safety.

Sounds like a strangely designed set up...

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Sounds like someone got the sear/trigger adjusted too light. If accidental flicking up the bolt up, causes it to chamber and fire. I'll be looking at the trigger. I wonder if it would fire, if you cock it, and hit the buttstock?


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:39 am 
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Thanks for the tip leadslinger- I’ll look into that.

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Avianmanor wrote:
Thanks for the tip leadslinger- I’ll look into that.

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Because if the force of just the bolt, is causing it to fire. A drop will cause it to fire. Now I'm sure you don't feel like taking the barrel, and tapping the buttstock with some force on the ground.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:21 pm 
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If the bolt is not moved all the way forward and down locked, the gun should not fire.
I cannot "see" it happening as described, as with my Umarex, with the "same sort of system
if I flip up the bolt, it moves forward only 1/2 way - it takes a definite 'push' forward and down
to get it into the firing position. Perhaps this is just a different system.
If the bolt moves forward to chamber a pellet, but not into down locked position, when firing the
air should move the bolt back and perhaps stick the pellet inside the barrel - No?

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:44 pm 
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Daryl wrote:
If the bolt moves forward to chamber a pellet, but not into down locked position, when firing the
air should move the bolt back and perhaps stick the pellet inside the barrel - No?


Yup, it's happened that way exactly Daryl.

Will likely strip her down to see what's going on -just looking for some feedback from members who may own a Brocock with the same action to see if this is the nature of the beast or something else.

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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 11:57 am 
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My Brocock is not that model, sry, however, if it's bold is not locked down and the gun is fired, it will blow the breech O-ring out of it's recess.
That's a pain in the butt.


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 12:46 pm 
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That's a mighty fine looking rifle Daryl! Gorgeous stock! I understand your model is also a bolt action -where is the bolt, on the left hand side? I'm surmising it's an earlier version than mine? Uses the same magazine? Just curious.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:32 pm 
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Finally got around to pulling off the walnut stock of my Brocock Concept and investigating this issue ..........

You nailed it Leadslinger; the trigger pull adjustment set screw was cranked all the way and then some! I backed it off just one turn, which had little to no effect in terms of pressure required to fire, but no more false release of air when the bolt is flipped up from the "safety" position. I believe the adjustment screw was cranked to the point where the trigger spring was actually preloading the bolt just enough so that it could spring up and forward and fire the rifle, which of course blew back the bolt since it wasn't locked down in the forward position with the pellet probe inside the breech. I've now adjusted the first and second stages to a range I'm comfortable with, which makes this a very safe gun to own and use.

Thanks everyone for your input and suggestions -a good example of how a safe firearm can become quite dangerous when the trigger adjustment is set too light.

Now I can get out there and play with this baby some more!

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Another case closed. Well done.


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Why was this locked


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Avianmanor wrote:
Finally got around to pulling off the walnut stock of my Brocock Concept and investigating this issue ..........

You nailed it Leadslinger; the trigger pull adjustment set screw was cranked all the way and then some! I backed it off just one turn, which had little to no effect in terms of pressure required to fire, but no more false release of air when the bolt is flipped up from the "safety" position. I believe the adjustment screw was cranked to the point where the trigger spring was actually preloading the bolt just enough so that it could spring up and forward and fire the rifle, which of course blew back the bolt since it wasn't locked down in the forward position with the pellet probe inside the breech. I've now adjusted the first and second stages to a range I'm comfortable with, which makes this a very safe gun to own and use.

Thanks everyone for your input and suggestions -a good example of how a safe firearm can become quite dangerous when the trigger adjustment is set too light.

Now I can get out there and play with this baby some more!

Cheers!

Avianmanor


Glad you fixed it.


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