Trevor wrote:
No offense, Because doesn't matter if its double locked, they get stolen and treat you like you didn't try. It's you AS a parent, responsibility to make sure they are stored safe, or teach your kids to respect them, not touch them etc.. Shouldn't be a law, or government responsibility. Because I can throw a 9mm on my kitchen table, and that will never harm anyone. Exactly what my father taught me.
None taken. Agreed- stored safe. In a safe. Young kids won't know how to use a combination lock and will be kept out of them. Older kids can be reasoned with and explained the dangers of. Keys to safes can be hidden from that difficult middle child who just won't listen to you.
Magazine limits are useless. Criminals don't care. You know most mags are just limited by a pop rivet? Hammer and punch, a drill etc. Magazine restrictions doesn't stop shootings. Also you are aware that the main guns used in shootings are Shotguns, hunting rifles and 22's? Up North they use alot of saw off 22's. None of them have "high" cap mags.
A written above- not sure if you had read this part of my post when you responded to it:
I know they can be circumvented (magazines) but during times of "passion" if someone has a restricted magazine they're less likely to hurt a large number of people as they didn't have the time to modify the magazine. I know this does nothing for someone who intentionally and premeditatively is setting out to hurt people..
It also makes it super hard to compete. Because if you shoot IPSC and 3 gun in the states, You are going up with people with 15/17 rds, vs 10rds. Rifle 30rds vs 5/10..Only negative thing is, ammo get costlier, or heavier.
I'm sure it does. Can't argue with you here.
No NFA is trying to be the NRA, not the CCFR.
The ccfr's website, under their policies tab, states they are for all the things I've outlined above. The ccfr wants open carry, relaxed storage requirements, and removal of magazine restricitons. If you want to liken that to the NFA and NRA that's your decision. I didn't. I just said I didn't want to see Canada mimic the US's model.
I'm not scared of criminals having guns. They're going to get them anyways and have always had them. I'm scared of the people out there with poor judgement, have had a bad day, recently divorced, emotionally unstable, lost their job. Normal everyday citizens who during times of duress may make an unfortunate wrong decision with something that the ccfa wants to have easy to have at hand. Its average joe public that I'm scared of. They're great people one day and not the next. These restrictions (the ones I specified above) keep honest people honest.
People teach kids gun safety, as low as 5 years old. So YES they understand.
You know how annoying it is, to be charged for unsafe storage for a couple 22s cartage's lying around on a table? That's why they want laxer storage laws. Or a 22LR stored in a lock closet. Making criminals over normal people.
You should be scared of criminals having guns. They are the ones that people like me, are screwing over. Nova Scotia shooter, did not have a license, had 2 assault charges, his guns were illegally acquired. His actions, changed every single law abiding citizens.
Alot of my friends are police officers, I also served in the Canadian Forces. Magazine limit has nothing to do with stopping crime. Criminals are going to be criminals, people that want to kill someone gonna kill someone. Stating that magazine limits will restrict spur of the moment, Is false. Considering alot of gun pulled off the NOVA SCOTIA streets are cut down Single shot 22s turned into pistols. So should be ban 22's because of people of criminal nature?
Ive been member of CSSA, NFA, CCFR... I been member of them all. But to argue laws, you kinda need to understand.
Also in Canada we don't really have a right to defend our self. So yes, we should. By the time the police shows up, it's too late. We are treated like criminals for protecting our self.
My neighbor planned his suicide, using a gun. His family didn't know had a gun.. Just last week, I helped a person grieve His friend went for a walk into the woods. He just lost his job and had a family of 6. Police and others deemed him dangerous. But knew his intentions. I also had a guy on tour, kill his family and himself. High cap mag didn't effect his decision.
How about BAN all guns ! Because normal people cannot shoot themselves or others if here are no guns. Basically what the government wants. I watched in my time of owning firearm, laws change because of criminals.. Not law abiding citizens.