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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:19 am 
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Hi All

I'm looking to get a high powered air rifle and want the quietest 1000fps rifle I can get my hands on in canada - PAL ok
Not set on style just need it to be accurate and reasonably reliable as well as quiet!
Will be used for hunting varmint
I've been reading online but keep getting disappointed when I find out I cant get that particular rifle locally - BC

Any suggestions welcome
Budget around $600 ish

Thanks :partyman:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:46 am 
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Since we're not allowed baffles/moderator... More speed = more noise

Anything @ 1000fps will be noisy.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:53 am 
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Kind of no such thing in Canada. Since we lack the use of hush puppies.

I would have to say with my experience, that a non dieseling, 750-800 FPS 22 break barrel, is the quietest. I had a 1000 FPS KRAL PCP and it rang my ears to shoot.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:44 am 
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.177s are a little quieter than .22s. Also it's take less power to reach that velocity so less noise again. But make no mistake about it, it will be too noisy to shoot anywhere outdoors if a house is in sight.


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a well tuned .177 springer :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:47 am 
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Outinfront wrote:
[list=]quietest 1000fps rifle
accurate and reasonably reliable
Will be used for hunting varmint
Budget around $600 ish[/list]

Hi Outinfront,
You have good input so far, but I suggest you break it down to what you want to do with your rifle and where. If it's varmint control, then FPE and accuracy are paramount. 1000 fps means little - what's important are FPE and precision. For the noise, a springer is your best bet, and then a NP could be considered as they produce less report than wire spring. So my suggestion would be to find a .22 cal NP rifle, perhaps something in the Crosman NP2 line would suit your purposes. :drinkers:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:54 am 
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Hello OutinFront,

I posted some tests on this subject a while ago -might be worth a read: topic83141.html

Clearly, without a moderator, fps and db go hand in hand. No such thing as a quiet (and legal) 1000 fps airgun in this country.

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If you really want quiet, a Cooey model 75 (28" barrel) with CCI "quiet" ammo is as quiet as any suppressed subsonic .22. The extra long barrel makes a huge difference. I find CCI quiets noisy in 20" barrels.
Edit: you are stuck with 700fps muzzle velocity, but with a 40gr bullet though. Headshots on skunks are immediately effective.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:38 am 
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^^^
That I agree on, Cooeys are quite accurate. I had my 78 out with the factory peeps at 110Y and got under 2.5" groups. Shamelessly sold it.

Mount a scope and probably lower it down to 1.5 to 2"
I got a 18" Cooey 75 scoped and does ragged holes at 25M. Groups I struggle to do with a Springer.

Maybe I should pick up another uncut Cooey 75. I got 40 grn CCI quiets, and 60 grn Augula SSS.


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My Dad's old model 60 Cooey he purchased in Regina during the war (WW11) will put 5 Remington Yellow jackets
into 1 1/2" at 100 meters, same with Winchester SuperX 38gr. HP's in the white box. Silver/grey box, not as good - over 2".
4X scope on side mount.

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Dukemeister wrote:
Outinfront wrote:
[list=]quietest 1000fps rifle
accurate and reasonably reliable
Will be used for hunting varmint
Budget around $600 ish[/list]

Hi Outinfront,
You have good input so far, but I suggest you break it down to what you want to do with your rifle and where. If it's varmint control, then FPE and accuracy are paramount. 1000 fps means little - what's important are FPE and precision. For the noise, a springer is your best bet, and then a NP could be considered as they produce less report than wire spring. So my suggestion would be to find a .22 cal NP rifle, perhaps something in the Crosman NP2 line would suit your purposes. :drinkers:


Thanks for the suggestion i will take a look

My Dlask arms DAR22 is pretty quiet with the CCI Quiets but cant discharge it around my house so looking into a bb gun for rodents


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:36 pm 
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Outinfront wrote:
My Dlask arms DAR22 is pretty quiet with the CCI Quiets but cant discharge it around my house so looking into a bb gun for rodents


BB gun (4.5mm size steel BBs shooting throua non-rifled smooth bore, usually powered by CO2 capsules ) is another story, they are much much weaker for rodents (300ish fps), and not as quiet as you expected...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:16 am 
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And ''BB Gun'' may also well be a generic term to call airguns, I don't think the OP would use that for pesting.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:01 am 
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1000 FPS airgun and 700 FPS 22LR is no different. Once you get over 500 FPS in an airgun, It's a firearm and treated the same really. If you really want to be technical.

Like Nova Scotia, if you got a firearm outside a approved range, you could be considered hunting. Airgun over 500 is the same as a firearm., so techically in my open rural backyard I cannot discharge my 700 fps airgun. And techically I cannot hunt small game with an airguns. Airguns are not on the list for approved firearms for small game. So anyone that techically shoots a squirrel, is doing it illegal.

So just food for thought.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:44 am 
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Outinfront wrote:

My Dlask arms DAR22 is pretty quiet with the CCI Quiets but cant discharge it around my house


If you cannot legally shoot your Dlask, the same rules will apply for any airguns +500fps.
- and while at it, you might also want to double-check on municipal bylaws regarding sub 500fps airguns...


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