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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:19 pm 
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I think you’re going to have a very difficult time getting a phantom to 800 fps in .22 cal with any reasonable weight of pellet. The most I’ve got was in the mid 700’s using 14 grain crosman.They are good little light weight guns at a bargain price. For 40$ you could get the full power spring and a new piston seal delivered. Your piston is the full power with bleed hole. I prefer to use solder in the hole rather than JB weld . Don’t forget to have a good look at your breech seal.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:35 pm 
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Hobbyman2007 wrote:
I think you’re going to have a very difficult time getting a phantom to 800 fps in .22 cal with any reasonable weight of pellet. The most I’ve got was in the mid 700’s using 14 grain crosman.They are good little light weight guns at a bargain price. For 40$ you could get the full power spring and a new piston seal delivered. Your piston is the full power with bleed hole. I prefer to use solder in the hole rather than JB weld . Don’t forget to have a good look at your breech seal.




Thanks for the advice. I have taken a look at the breach seal and it appears to look good. It for the $3 to replace it, I will order one with the spring and piston seal.

Any idea what the part number for the full power spring is? I have looked at a few parts diagrams and they all have the same part number for the spring.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:43 pm 
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Hers the parts list you need
Piston seal-B18-04-1A
Spring -B18-00-4D
Breech seal - B20-00-3

And the piston if you think you want to replace it. B18-04-100A

These are the parts for the phantom 1000 CS1K77 /x

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
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Hobbyman2007 wrote:
Hers the parts list you need
Piston seal-B18-04-1A
Spring -B18-00-4D
Breech seal - B20-00-3

And the piston if you think you want to replace it. B18-04-100A

These are the parts for the phantom 1000 CS1K77 /x




Thank you very much for the help. I may order those up tomorrow. Wouldn’t be a bad idea to give it a fresh start again.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
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With the limited budget maybe a used gun out of the for sale section might be better.Just seen a Diana .22 for $250.


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mwarden62009 wrote:
Ok. So I tore into my Phantom .22 after reading all the great advice. This is what I have found. My Piston is 5-3/4 inch long and has the bleeder port. I have already use some clear JB
Weld on top and bottom of the bleeder hole.

My Spring is about 9 inches long and I counted 34 coils if I counted properly. I am looking for advice as to how to make this a good tack driver till I can save up enough to buy a good air rifle. I have firearms and allot of .22 powder burners, but have recently enjoyed catching small game with the air rifle. I just wish it was more effective at a further range. Where do I go from here?

When I put it back together, I will have some shims in the spring to try it out for now. But I would prefer to change the spring for the full strength one. I would be happy to get it shooting around the 800 FPS or a little higher if possible.
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I have a NP2 that shoots 14.3 at around 750 fps.I get complete pass through on small game at 25yrds and full penetration on 1x4 at 10 yrds.There are many builds in the archives and it seems these guns are best suited for the 600-650 fps range.This is still enough power to take small game while offering a lot smoother firing cycle and be less hold sensitive and pellet picky.good luck and have fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
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Sid66 wrote:
With the limited budget maybe a used gun out of the for sale section might be better.Just seen a Diana .22 for $250.



Thank you for the heads up. I am still learning how to navigate around the forums and haven’t found the used stuff for sale yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
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mwarden62009 wrote:
Sid66 wrote:
With the limited budget maybe a used gun out of the for sale section might be better.Just seen a Diana .22 for $250.



Thank you for the heads up. I am still learning how to navigate around the forums and haven’t found the used stuff for sale yet.

topic87181.html sorry I thought it was a rifle.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
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Sid66 wrote:
mwarden62009 wrote:
Sid66 wrote:
With the limited budget maybe a used gun out of the for sale section might be better.Just seen a Diana .22 for $250.



Thank you for the heads up. I am still learning how to navigate around the forums and haven’t found the used stuff for sale yet.

topic87181.html sorry I thought it was a rifle.



No problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for advice!
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this might help you.very similar to what you have now.topic87150.html


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