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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:49 pm 
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Here some more numbers ..I don't think it super deadly its just so easy to spread there lies the problem .........


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:11 pm 
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I think you are conflating the numbers. Would not the 2.82% die OF THE 1.5% of positive cases? So then the actual mortality is an infitismal fraction of the population!


Yes, the death rate means you have to have it first.. that should be obvious... you're not going to die if you don't catch it. I'm sorry I even had to explain that, LOL.

Yes a very small percentage of people will die, but that not something I'm willing to take a risk with myself.

Read up on the Mayo Clinic's long term effects information, also something I'm not willing to risk. Death isn't the only downside.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20490351

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Organ damage caused by COVID-19
Although COVID-19 is seen as a disease that primarily affects the lungs, it can damage many other organs as well. This organ damage may increase the risk of long-term health problems. Organs that may be affected by COVID-19 include:

Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future.
Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems.
Brain. Even in young people, COVID-19 can cause strokes, seizures and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis. COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm 
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0.02% of population
I doubt that would be very good odds to buy a lottery ticket for

Replica: we don’t calculate mortality for any other disease that way!
The cause of death vs population is the real number not what you are using

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:25 pm 
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Has anyone here had it ? I had it a few weeks ago and it was no worse then a regular flu for me. I am still having minor breathing problems and have no sense of smell. I already had respiratory issues to begin with and any cold or flu has the same effect on my breathing for weeks after. I'm 56 with pre existing conditions. I have to wonder if I got lucky or maybe it's not as bad as what they are telling us.
Not sure if I will be in a rush to take the vaccine. If you want you can google a drug called Ivermectin. It's been around a while and looks like it has better results then the vaccine. I'm still digging more into though.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:26 pm 
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Voltar1 wrote:
0.02% of population
I doubt that would be very good odds to buy a lottery ticket for

Replica: we don’t calculate mortality for any other disease that way!
The cause of death vs population is the real number not what you are using

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0.02% of population
I doubt that would be very good odds to buy a lottery ticket for


Tell that to the family's of the dead

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Has anyone here had it ? I had it a few weeks ago and it was no worse then a regular flu for me. I am still having minor breathing problems and have no sense of smell. I already had respiratory issues to begin with and any cold or flu has the same effect on my breathing for weeks after. I'm 56 with pre existing conditions. I have to wonder if I got lucky or maybe it's not as bad as what they are telling us.
Not sure if I will be in a rush to take the vaccine. If you want you can google a drug called Ivermectin. It's been around a while and looks like it has better results then the vaccine. I'm still digging more into though.


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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4220302011

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/88310

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:42 pm 
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lauchlin wrote:
twister wrote:
Has anyone here had it ? I had it a few weeks ago and it was no worse then a regular flu for me. I am still having minor breathing problems and have no sense of smell. I already had respiratory issues to begin with and any cold or flu has the same effect on my breathing for weeks after. I'm 56 with pre existing conditions. I have to wonder if I got lucky or maybe it's not as bad as what they are telling us.
Not sure if I will be in a rush to take the vaccine. If you want you can google a drug called Ivermectin. It's been around a while and looks like it has better results then the vaccine. I'm still digging more into though.


Please post links

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4220302011

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/88310

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z

Wow thank you. I only just heard about this the other day and only read a couple of articles about it. 2 of the links you posted I hadn't seen yet. My apologies and I will provide links next time I post.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:54 pm 
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Wow thank you. I only just heard about this the other day and only read a couple of articles about it. 2 of the links you posted I hadn't seen yet. My apologies and I will provide links next time I post.


Hey no problem and thank you very interesting read .I want link to keep out the i heard on Facebook or twitter or my Aunt sister cousin you no what i mean .....There is so much tin hat baseless Bull S out there ...................

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:45 pm 
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How many of these do you recognize?
#1. Polio
#2. Tetanus
#3. Influenza
#4. Hepatitis A
#5. Hepatitis B
#6. Rubella
#7. Hib
#8. Measles
#9. Whooping Cough
#10. Pneumococcal Disease
#11. Rotavirus
#12. Mumps
#13. Chickenpox
#14. Diphtheria
Because vaccines, duh.


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airhawk wrote:
How many of these do you recognize?
#1. Polio
#2. Tetanus
#3. Influenza
#4. Hepatitis A
#5. Hepatitis B
#6. Rubella
#7. Hib
#8. Measles
#9. Whooping Cough
#10. Pneumococcal Disease
#11. Rotavirus
#12. Mumps
#13. Chickenpox
#14. Diphtheria
Because vaccines, duh.

https://alaskawatchman.com/2020/12/18/3 ... gm8qrvIj_o
Keep in mind that the covid vaccines are a different type of vaccines that have been rushed through.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:01 pm 
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You are right, twister, and Walter. I am not in a hurry to take the vaccine and luckily, it will likely not even be offered to me
for some time to come. I very much am interested in post injection people's responses. Anaphylactic shock, I do not want
nor to I want what Bill Gates described as : "approximately 750,000 seniors will be adversely effected by the vaccine" - whatever
those adverse effects might be. As I am now in THAT "senior" group, I will hold back on the vacc. as-of now.

Just last week I attempted to find the interview where Gates said that (- I WATCHED HIM SAY IT -) and that interview with CBS
correspondent was scrubbed and that statement he smilingly made, was removed from that tape/interview. It jumped from just before
the young woman asked him about injection reactions expected, to after he made the statement. No - not tin hat coutnry - I saw the video
and heard he say those words, so, at 70yrs. of age, I think I will hold off for a while on this NEW TYPE/SYSTEM of vaccine that may change DNA.
They still don't have a vaccine for the common cold - also a corona virus. Maybe THEY will, after this, maybe not. I just don't want to be one
of the 750,000 seniors who will be adversely effected by the vaccine, that was seemingly rushed through the system. We were told last
spring, a vaccine would take at least 18 months to be developed and tested. That was 7 months ago we were told this.
My life will not change for the coming year if I do not 'get' the vaccine. I'll be spending the entire summer at the lake, fishing, in my boat & on the
Stelako River, alone or likely with my wife.
So - at this time, no vacc. for me.
Further - even with the vacc. you have a 5% to 10% chance the vacc. won't work & you will GET covid 19 anyway. 5 to 10 out of every 100 injected
will get the virus anyway.
Phizer initially said their vacc. was 90% effective, then Moderna came out with a vaccine and said their's was 95% effective, so Phizer changed their
advertisement to 95% - LOL - they said it so I guess we have to believe it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:08 pm 
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Well i looked for your bill Gates post just found these
https://apnews.com/article/9155890357

https://www.4cmitv.com/2020/09/25/2020- ... ccination/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ould-kill/

https://www.bbc.com/news/52039642

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:14 pm 
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He didn't say 700,000 people would have negative reactions.

He said "750,000 seniors will be ADVERSELY effected by the vaccine"- those were the word he used.

Of course, it was scrubbed.

I watched the entire interview. So- what is being said now, is a lie, or carefully
worded so they can deny what was said.

You believe what you want. I merely posted this to reiterate what was said about the vaccine.

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Daryl wrote:
He didn't say 700,000 people would have negative reactions.

He said "750,000 seniors will be ADVERSELY effected by the vaccine"- those were the word he used.

Of course, it was scrubbed.

I watched the entire interview. So- what is being said now, is a lie, or carefully
worded so they can deny what was said.

All i can find so far https://www.geekwire.com/2020/serious-m ... spiracies/

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/bill- ... 42369.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronaviru ... ple-doses/

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:24 pm 
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Take it or leave it on the shelf. I told what I saw and heard HIM say.
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