Error wrote:
scanny wrote:
Error wrote:
A lesser pal version would be a good thing... more like the one day safety course you need to take in order to apply for the pal...
The goal is to make sure kids or anyone handle their airguns safely. And maybe learn the right habits for handling firearms in general..
As far as I understood their general idea was that cops can't tell what sort of gun is pointed at them. Nobody said anything about BB guns safety, keep in mind they wanted to ban only replica airguns (at least for now). So license won't make any sense for government. I don't think they introduced it because first of all it's not their intention to allow you to keep your replicas and second, any new license will create a whole framework of new laws and confusions and cost a lot to implement and maintain it. Probably with licensing you'll have to have license to own any airgun, not just replica. Besides that sort of licenses will create base for further restrictions and punishments - the same way they deal with current firearms licensing - if they will control your airgun ownership, regulation can go only one direction and it's not the direction you want : ) So I think any new licenses for airgun is really a bad idea. It might get us a temporary relief, but on the long run it will get things worse.
It will eventually get worst without any rules... the politicians want something.. you have to give them something.. something that will make them look good. you can't just claim that airgun replicas are armless. Or banning it will kill the industry... it's not gona work.
People don't point their airgun replica at the cop... that is very rare... the cop probably just want to reduce 911 false calls... and to reduce the daily stress..
The airgun industry is going to die without the replicas.. most ppl buy airguns because they are replicas.
I don't know if you know, but there are lots of ppl out there who have lost their pal card due to legal issue.. some of them have to wait years to renew their card, some of them can't.
Upping to 700 or even 800 fps may be an incitative to stick to airguns... owning real live ammo firearms can be such a pain..
Doing the safety firearms course.. just like you do for boating.. can only help us and the industry.
As for implementing the new laws and applying them. Thats not that difficult really.. if you think about it.
At the end, every airgun owners will be happy to use a 700/800 fps airguns without the need of a pal.. who knows. Some of them might decide to stick to airguns because their airguns are powerful enough at the shooting range... 495 fps is just too weak.
I think forum member "Error" has got it right! If the airgun laws are changed as proposed, it will be close to a death blow for most airgunners, airsofters, & paintball users.
Yes, I agree that the suggestion to have some sort of license to buy replica airguns, will have close to zero effect on those that want to use them for criminal activities. And will be a big inconvenience on all legal users. But the alternative is death to the industry. And do all you airgun tinkers/PCP'ers out there want to have all the Canadian sellers to close for the lack of business, and have to import every part & pellet you need. As without replica airguns, most Cdn. sellers are not going to be able to survive.
Saying it will not stop crime, or it is stupid, may not be the best position to take. Accepting a compromise, as distasteful as it is, is a lot better than losing all.
And don't think of it as losing part of your rights, think of it as keeping our hobby alive. And if they up the PAL limit to something like 700/800 fps, that might be an extra bonus.
Our rights are being eroded every single day, in many different areas. For example, in my Province you now need a special license to drive a one ton pickup truck (over 10,000 lb GVWR). And can not park it on any city street for more than one hour.
So is this really the hill everyone wants to die on? I'm not sure I want to. A tactical retreat and acceptance of a compromise, might be the best option.
Just remember the Vietnamese won a war based on the principle of tactical retreat.