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 Post subject: Time for a bigger lathe
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:06 am 
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Hey guys,
the time has come. I've had a 7x12 lathe from busy bee for a while now. I know... I was told, I'd regret buying a tiny lathe... But in all honesty I learned a lot. And had I been learning these things on a bigger lathe I could have catastrophic failures or injuries... So I guess I didn't really lose out on much. Anyway it works really good for making small parts. I like it. As temperamental as it is.

Anyway. I don't know where else to look. But, any insight on this?
https://www.busybeetools.com/products/1 ... x709x.html

I can't see needing a spindle bore over 1.5"... Who knows :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:05 am 
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https://www.busybeetools.com/products/l ... cx615.html

Why not go with a lathe/mill combo. Gives you more freedom to make whatever you want

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:18 am 
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Hi Killer.
That looks like a great lathe. My larger Moody lathe has 1" through the headstock. It works fine for 99% of the powder burner barrel work I do. It has a 4' bed and I can swing a 26" barrel between centres.
The only drawback I see on your proposed lathe is the bed length and the resultant available distance between centers. If it comes in a longer bed length, and you can afford it, you might want to consider it. Besides the extra expense, the longer bed length will make for a larger and heavier unit, which may be a consideration for available shop space or location. (Does it have to go down a basement?)
I wish my lathe had 1.5" bore.
Don't sell your mini-lathe! I also have a smaller South Bend 9A with a short 36" bed, .750" bore, and 18" between centres. I use it a fair amount. It's useful when I have work set up in my big lathe, but need to make a small part. I also use the power feeds on the Southie for milling with a Palmgren milling attachment.

With your obvious machining skills, a catastrophic failure is highly unlikely. With a larger lathe failures usually result in broken tool bits. Please don't ask me how I know this.

Rick.

Edit: the advert doesn't mention what tooling/accessories are included in the price. Chucks for a lathe this size are not cheap.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:33 am 
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ricksplace wrote:
the advert doesn't mention what tooling/accessories are included in the price. Chucks for a lathe this size are not cheap.


What you see is what you get. If starting from scratch not cheap would be a bit of an understatement.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:44 am 
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It would make more sense to have a longer bed. Ill eventually want to learn actual gun smithing, so that would probably come in pretty handy.

I like the idea of a lathe mill combo. Do they make them with a longer bed though? Probably pricey. Think Ill definitely look at the used market for something.

I won't have to pack it into the basement. Just have a small attached front garage. But space is pretty limited. I'm sure I can manage though :lol: move some things around, make room.

Will see what happens I guess!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:51 am 
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If you can afford that lathe and additional tooling that will work great
I am not a fan of combo machines so would encourage you to stay away from them. They don’t do any job well imo

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:25 pm 
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I'm jealous of all of you. Last time I used a lathe, it was in shops class in grade 8 or 9.

Don't want to say it, but that was almost 50 years ago.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:31 pm 
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Bite the bullet and buy one! Worthy investment :wink:


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I have this one: https://www.kingcanada.com/en/products/ ... etal-lathe

Comes with lots of accessories and pretty decent for the price, but needed a few (easy) improvements. Runs on 110V, 1'' spindle bore, a true 24'' between centers, comes with both a 5'' 3-jaw chuck and a 6 1/4'' 4-jaws adjustable chuck. You may want to add the optionnal quick-change tool post, very nice to have. Can be used with a small milling attachment with easy mods.

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airmec wrote:
I have this one: https://www.kingcanada.com/en/products/ ... etal-lathe

Comes with lots of accessories and pretty decent for the price, but needed a few (easy) improvements. Runs on 110V, 1'' spindle bore, a true 24'' between centers, comes with both a 5'' 3-jaw chuck and a 6 1/4'' 4-jaws adjustable chuck. You may want to add the optionnal quick-change tool post, very nice to have. Can be used with a small milling attachment with easy mods.

That would be a very nice lathe!
Only negative is the 1” spindle bore

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:13 pm 
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BB1Shooter wrote:
I'm jealous of all of you. Last time I used a lathe, it was in shops class in grade 8 or 9.

Don't want to say it, but that was almost 50 years ago.


LOL... me too. Grade 9 & 10 tech class was 43 years ago. I think my folks still have the ball peen hammer and the salt & pepper shakers that I made back then. Lots of fun!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:15 pm 
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Very nice indeed.
Yes I'm finding most things I'd like to build lately would be at least 1" diameter.
I'll find the right tool. Not going to rush this one.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:21 pm 
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I see better ones come up used on Kijijji and Facebook all the time. You might want to entertain that.......this mill just sold for 1200$ near me.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... l%7D%22%7D

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I learned a very little knowledge on how to use the lathe in my job from my nice workmates... In the school class in university, I learned how to use only a file and a table clamp to make a nut from a piece of metal block... :eek:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:57 pm 
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I took a heavy equipment mechanic pre apprenticeship course, one of the first things we did was make the crow foot gear puller using only hand tools and a drill. Files and hacksaw :lol: you'd be surprised what you can do when you put your mind to it.


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