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 Post subject: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:52 pm 
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Recently I had picked up a Crosman Vantage on sale and it is a nice pleasant springer to plink with and likely decent to hunt small game, but it didn't feel like a major set up from the sub 500fps guns I've had. It is more powerful but not an intimidating gun by any means.

With some reluctance, due to reading a couple of bad reviews, I decided to buy a used Walther Falcon Hunter addition (spring version). I figured that I'd likely blow the $200 on something stupid anyway and I'd always wanted to have a seriously powerful air gun (compared to my history of sub 500fps guns that is). I got a chance to shoot it today for the first time and wow... this is a major step up from the air guns of my youth! It is a gun that immediately removes any notion that it is a toy gun. This is not a backyard plinking gun, both because it is too loud and because it would be dangerous if the pellet goes astray.

This rifle is big, it is longer than anything in my collection sort of my 7.62x51 competition tubegun long range rifle. The Walther Falcon (Made in Turkey, version of the Hatsan 125 I believe) is about 49.5" long and weights in at just shy of 9lbs. Cocking it is reminiscent of using a weight machine in a gym, it feels like it takes maybe 50lbs of effort to cock it and you need to be careful to pull it all the way completely back through whole range of movement. There is no wasted motion in the cocking action, it is all loading the spring up.

There is an automatic thumb safety, which seems like a good idea with this much spring compressed. My old Slavia 630/77 has this feature and I like it. Despite the reviews I've read the trigger is great, on par with most of my conventional firearms, worlds better than my Vantage and my WF600. When the trigger lets go the rifle makes quite the noise and after the noticeable recoil I had the mental impression of a suspension strut or similar heavily loaded item letting go near by. There was no question in my mind as to the nature of this rifle being a springer, spring noise/vibration is noticeable to put it mildly. On checking the target I was pleased to see that the sights were dead on and needed no adjustment. There is a substantial combined 11mm and 20mm dovetail scope mount built into the rifle so mounting a scope should be easy though I don't know if any of the scopes I have will last long on this thing.

I fired a couple of pellets across my chronograph. Crosman 14.3gr pellets averaged 852fps and H&N Baracuda Match 21.14gr pellets averaged 710fps (~24 ft-lbs of muzzle energy). It would be faster at lower elevation but I'm at about 3500ft here in Calgary. I need to get out of town to stretch this things legs and see what it can do but I think I might just love this thing, I can't help but grin when I shoot it so I think I'm happy with my purchase at this point.

I should add that the stock is synthetic and I've read that there have been some problems with them cracking, I hope this doesn't happen to this one. I find it a very comfortable stock so far, though I would prefer a wood stock. Also this stock has some mossy oak camo job from the factory. I might just paint it flat green or something so it doesn't look quite so redneck ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:06 pm 
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I used a flat green crinkle paint (Home Hardware) on a Savage 340 .22 Hornet once. It looked and felt pretty good, actually.
Glad you are happy with your new rifle.

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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:55 pm 
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Reminds me of the Hatsan Mod125

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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:33 pm 
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That beast is a powerhouse! Wow, 852fps with 14.3gr pellets. How is the recoil? I don't think I have ever seen a combination scope rail before. Great idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:41 pm 
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I believe that it is a Walther branded Hatsan 125 from what I've read.

The recoil is noticeable, not like a powder burner but it is there and feels like it would be tough on scopes.

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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:17 pm 
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Found some more information on this rifle, the stock cracking problem and bad trigger I've read about were apparently on an earlier version of the Walther Falcon.

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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:38 pm 
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Shooting this rifle is a hoot :) Just the wack it gives me, it is better than a 22lr for feeling like I'm shooting a powder burner. It's got me thinking about getting something in the .25 or .30 range now.

The one thing I wish is that it had a wood stock and not this plastic.

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2240/2260 20"
WF600
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Vantage .22 (.177 if the barrel shows up)
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Walther Talon Magnum .25


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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:36 pm 
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Peterdulux contacted me here on the forum in response to my quest for Hatsan 125 parts, turns out he also lives in Calgary and he had a Walther Talon spring .25 in his extensive collection that could use more attention than he was giving it. We met up and now there are two of these Hatsan based beasties in the house.

The trigger on this Talon is fantastic, I obviously need to adjust the one on the Falcon. However the Talon did need a lot of elevation on the rear sight to zero it at the same distance as the Falcon. The Talon has three pins vs the two pins in the Falcon. Accuracy doesn't seem quite as good as the Falcon but I'm shooting iron sights kneeling in the garage. At ~30ft the Falcon is about 1/2" ten shots and the Talon is about 1" ten shots. I need to spend some time shooting these to figure out the best hold. Seems like a firm rear hold with an open hand front hold at the balance point is doing the best so far. Haven't chronographed it yet but it sure smacks my steel pellet trap hard. I feel like the Talon needs to be broken in still, groups seemed to get better each time but I only have a limited supply of .25 pellets that peterdulux generously threw in when I lamented the futility of finding any in Calgary and it just would not do to have a new gun and not be able to shoot it.

The stocks on the two rifles look the same shape but the Talon (black one) has a nice texture to it. The Falcon feels really smooth and slippery. I think I might be taking some sand paper and paint to the Falcon stock if I can't find a wood stock for it.

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Slavia 624
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2240/2260 20"
WF600
Vantage .22
Vantage .22 (.177 if the barrel shows up)
Walther Falcon Hunter .22
Walther Talon Magnum .25


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 Post subject: Re: Walther Falcon
PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:40 am 
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Glad you are happy with it so far.

Yes, it will need to be broken in.

With regards to the open sights, I scoped it so I did not experience what you have found.

Someone will chime in and help figure out whats going on there.

I wonder, the pellets are substantially heavier and drop faster ( if I'm thinking the right way) could that be the need for so much adjustment?

If you look at the pic of the barrel ends, it appears that one of the sights is taller than the other. Check that to verify.


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