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 Post subject: New! Immersive Optics
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:25 pm 
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Just got in some new high quality scopes from Immersive Optics in the UK. I just got a few of each size and some are gone already but I'll be getting more. These are fixed power scopes, very compact with ED high definition glass and very wide angle viewing, super clear. They have adjustable parallax on the side, as well as illuminated reticle.
The reticle choices are MIL Extended (Christmas tree style), Mil Classic and Rapid Aquisition reticle.
The mounts that come with the scopes are really cool and allow you to adjust for MOA and the scope comes with a short and a long mount for more options on placement for proper eye relief on different guns.
Lots of great reviews on these and some good YouTube videos. Edgun Leishy owners are buying these up in the UK and US as they work great with a compact setup like the Leishy and Impact.
Sizes range from 5x24 to 14x50.
Here's the Immersive Optics page on my site :
https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/immersive-optics/
If you're looking for something super bright and nice and light, these might be what you're looking for!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:07 pm 
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Those are VERY interesting!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:15 pm 
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I like the look of those and I like prism scopes but the very short eye relief and eye cup comb is a no go with my glasses.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:27 pm 
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Headdamage wrote:
I like the look of those and I like prism scopes but the very short eye relief and eye cup comb is a no go with my glasses.


just cut the rubber in small increments to fit

replacement pigs ears can be bought


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:33 pm 
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Just thinking that's a good replacement to the diopter sight and you just have up to 14x power and a large 50mm size peep plus you don't need a front globe sight~ [emoji38]

And a very basic entry grade nice diopter sight setup cost similar to it...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:09 pm 
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I got this from their site...

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Many of your scopes provide short eye relief, and I don’t like the eyepiece or rubber cap touching my face.

Our scopes are designed in a way that ensures none of the apparatus needs to come into contact with the user’s face. The end barrels on our eyepieces have a very small diameter, and this allows the eyepiece to sit very close to the eye without coming into contact with the user’s nose or eyebrow. For this to be possible, any rubber eye piece needs to be removed.


I feel like this doesn't quite make sense, I suspect a translation error or something like that.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:12 pm 
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Reading some more on them I'm temped, 6m focus ability.

The 5x has 1.77" eye relief and the 10x has 0.55" eye relief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnf6qJsUkU

Apparently the 10x are not suitable for springers.

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Immersive Optics prismatic riflescopes are designed for use with non-recoiling airguns only. That means primarily PCPs and CO2-powered guns. This is because the eye relief – the distance between the scope and your eye – is extremely short.

If used with a recoiling airgun – like a gas ram or spring/piston air rifle – the result would be a painful case of “scope bite”. The scope would cut your eyebrow at best – damage your eye at worst. So, they’re for PCPs and CO2 guns only!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:27 am 
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I emailed the company and they confirmed not to use the 10x on springers but that the 5x would be fine.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:25 am 
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Headdamage wrote:
I emailed the company and they confirmed not to use the 10x on springers but that the 5x would be fine.


Thanks for checking into these details. That could have been an expensive lesson if the 10X was used on a magnum springer.


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The main reason not to use the 10x on springers is the black eye that could result from it. Very short eye relief.

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Thanks for the updates! Yes they are supposed to be shock proof, so it's the eye relief that is the issue. I've never tried using a short eye relief scope on a springer. I suppose it would jump forward first then bounce back and hit your eye. The rubber eye piece would probably protect a person somewhat. But with glasses on that rubber piece isn't so great. (it's removable of course, as mentioned earlier)

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Thinking that should be fine as I didn't get any black cycle eye when shooting my recoiless (due to sledge system) springer FWB300SU when using the diopter rear sight with rubber eye piece...

And don't think a normal springer will jump backwards more than the one with the sledge system... If so, that springer really needs a tune?! ;)

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YepYep wrote:
Thinking that should be fine as I didn't get any black cycle eye when shooting my recoiless (due to sledge system) springer FWB300SU when using the diopter rear sight with rubber eye piece...

And don't think a normal springer will jump backwards more than the one with the sledge system... If so, that springer really needs a tune?! ;)


Id suspect that many will get scope eye, as springers tend to like a looser hold. Actually those lead sleds, actually aid in destroying scope more. Because you are trying to contain energy, that wants to escape. It is like holding in a sneeze in you mouth, rather then sneezing in your arm. Keeping it closed and, causes pressure else where's, I normally get popped ears, or headache after. So I just let them rip.


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leadslinger wrote:
YepYep wrote:
Thinking that should be fine as I didn't get any black cycle eye when shooting my recoiless (due to sledge system) springer FWB300SU when using the diopter rear sight with rubber eye piece...

And don't think a normal springer will jump backwards more than the one with the sledge system... If so, that springer really needs a tune?! ;)


Id suspect that many will get scope eye, as springers tend to like a looser hold. Actually those lead sleds, actually aid in destroying scope more. Because you are trying to contain energy, that wants to escape. It is like holding in a sneeze in you mouth, rather then sneezing in your arm. Keeping it closed and, causes pressure else where's, I normally get popped ears, or headache after. So I just let them rip.


What I am thinking is you shoulder the rifle, trigger hand holds the grip, maybe very loose hold or just a support with the other hand under the stock forearm... When the gun fires, your trigger hand and shoulder are taking the recoil, even a loose hold on everything, they are preventing the stock and the action move backwards too much...

But on a recoiless sledge system FWB300, you are holding the stock same as a normal springer, but the action is moving backward on the sledge when fire to absorb the recoil instead of passing it to the stock and the shooter ... Plus I am using a diopter sight, which on mine is about one inch 'eye relief '. Not accurate usage here as a peep sight have no eye relief and you can put your eye next to the peep if you want... The one inch on mine just the length of the rubber eye piece...

And as I didn't have been hit by the stuff on the top of the moving action, I think it's okay for using a scope with short eye relief...

I think the factory not recommend the 10x one on springer is for the design to achieve the bigger power has weaker shock resistance ability?!

Need someone's real world experience to chime in.... :axe:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:56 pm 
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The eye relief on the 10x is 0.7" (1.778cm), that does not leave much margin for error with rifle hold and recoil control. I guess I'm conditioned to want lots of eye relief because I have a 338win and a 300win in the safe, they teach you to respect eye relief and proper technique.

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