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 Post subject: Hawke AMX reticle
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:16 am 
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I've never owed a Hawke scope but noticed that the Airmax line is made specifically with airgunners in mind. Apparently, the Airmax has an etched reticle and can withstand heavy springer recoil. The AMX reticle looks like an improved mildot style with 1/2 dots (dashes) between the round mildots on the lower vertical reticle. These dashes get longer towards the bottom of the vertical reticle. All 4 reticle directions also have 5 small boxes at the ends (20 total).

If you have a Hawke with AMX, how do you like this reticle? Do you get distracted by all the lines, boxes and dots? Too much to look at or does it work great for you? Do you prefer a basic mildot?


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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:31 am 
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I have a few AirMax scopes with the amx reticle. Just bought the latest iteration of the WA in a 4-16. Great scopes and great reticles. Even illuminated it's not too busy. IMO you would have to pay a lot more to get a better scope, ie sightron.

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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That reticle looks fine. It's whatever you get used to, I guess.
I really like the reticles on the Vector Tourex 6-24 that WesB sells. I
have a couple of these.
Scroll down to see the reticle. It is a first focal plane scope with MOA reticle with 38 MOA of stadia wires, 2 moa apart &
the best part, is they are numbered, so easy to check a chart(that you make) for elevation adjustments for hitting at longer ranges.

https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/vector-opti ... fle-scope/

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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I have the same reticle on my Airmax 30 SF. I don't find it too busy at all. In fact, the fine reticle was a major plus and the half mil-dots for holdover were a bonus. Even with the illuminated red/green light activated, there were no impediments. Very clear & crisp sight.

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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TCooper wrote:
how do you like this reticle?
Most of my shooting is indoors. When I take it outside to 30 and 40m, I don't zero the scopes, I hold over. Which I don't mind, it's fun. But I think that AMX reticle is going to be very good for holding over. I could have used those lower bars in yesterday's session.

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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I came very close to buying a Hawke Airmax today, I need something to put on my Walther Falcon but suspect it will beat the crap out of most scopes. Is the warranty good/easy enough to be worth taking a chance with Hawke?

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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Headdamage wrote:
I came very close to buying a Hawke Airmax today, I need something to put on my Walther Falcon but suspect it will beat the crap out of most scopes. Is the warranty good/easy enough to be worth taking a chance with Hawke?


Canadian warranty claims done in Ontario. You could call them to see if they discuss warranty details. Please post the info if you call.

https://ca.hawkeoptics.com/contact.html


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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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I've emailed them to ask about use on a Magnum springer. This wording in their warranty concerns me "This warranty does not cover failure from fair wear and tear".

I have sent a scope into Leopold that looked like it had been used to hammer nails and then stored in the box of a pickup truck for a few years. I bought it sight unseen and could not believe how bad it was when it arrived. It was outright broken, cross hairs could not be adjusted, focus messed up, dented etc... I mailed it into Leupold to see if they could do something with it. They called me when they got it and said it was toast, unrepairable. I thought I'd just wasted $200 plus the cost of shipping it to Leupold but then they say, we don't make this model any more but we will send you the closest thing we have to it. A week later a brand new $800 Leupold varmint scope shows up, I will never doubt Leupold's warranty.

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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Headdamage wrote:
I've emailed them to ask about use on a Magnum springer. This wording in their warranty concerns me "This warranty does not cover failure from fair wear and tear".

I have sent a scope into Leopold that looked like it had been used to hammer nails and then stored in the box of a pickup truck for a few years. I bought it sight unseen and could not believe how bad it was when it arrived. It was outright broken, cross hairs could not be adjusted, focus messed up, dented etc... I mailed it into Leupold to see if they could do something with it. They called me when they got it and said it was toast, unrepairable. I thought I'd just wasted $200 plus the cost of shipping it to Leupold but then they say, we don't make this model any more but we will send you the closest thing we have to it. A week later a brand new $800 Leupold varmint scope shows up, I will never doubt Leupold's warranty.


Regardless of what the warranty states I've never heard/read of a rejected warranty claim from hawke. If someone has please speak up with some details. I've watched the interview from the hawke owner stating the airmax line was developed specifically to handle the toughest of magnum springers. I believe he was referring to Diana. Anyways ags is a good place to contact about warranty questions.

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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The only scope I ever had die on me was an old Bushnell Sportview 3-9x32AO. It was an airgun scope with AO adjusting down to 10 yards. Mine was fine on an HW30S but didn't like the Diana 52. It went all foggy inside and was unusable. I sent it to Bushnell in southern Ontario and 3 weeks later received a new Sportsman 3-9x32AO upgrade scope.

Leupold has always had a good reputation for backing their products. A local gunsmith said that Vortex is the same with warranty. I'm not sure about Leapers/UTG but I currently have 3 of them.

The Hawke website says the Airmax are "Specialist scopes designed by airgfunners for airgunners". It also says they are "shockproof" ... "All calibre rated".... and covered by "Hawke warranty".

"Wear and tear" would be things like finish wear, dents, scratched glass and other damage that you may have done while using the product. The warranty wording actually says "fair wear and tear" isn't covered. I would think you would be fine claiming defects such as the AO or a turret seizing, AO not functioning, broken crosshairs, or scope fogging. I would hope the Airmax line would hold up to NP rifles and not jump adjustments because of the recoil.


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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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Read the fine print for scope warranties. Some warranties are for the life of the scope and some for a set time period. I believe Hawke's warranty is for the original owner.


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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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Created this this afternoon, sitting in my backyard. Zeroed at 20 and then shot other distances and marked the reticle printout based on where the pellet hit. I could add more points of impact, but I just estimate the shots between. Works for me for Hunter FT. Was hitting targets from 10 yards up to 52.


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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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There is a similar reticle in my Leapers 3-12X44's, with the Mil Dots and 1/2 mil dot slashes. They are wonderful for zeros.

I have charts like that on the bell of my 6-24X44 varmint scopes. Read off the range on the range finder, then select the proper
aiming mark or in between marks for whatever range is needed, right out to 520yards. This was especially effective with the
.17 Remington and .17AH chamberings for my CZ action for shooting gophers.
The Leapers noted above worked well on the rats with the HW97 in .177.

I find that reticle to be a good one and not busy at all. Some of the more complicated ones seem that way, until you get used to them.

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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I heard back and the warranty is good for use on magnum springers.

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 Post subject: Re: Hawke AMX reticle
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Mac wrote:
Created this this afternoon, sitting in my backyard. Zeroed at 20 and then shot other distances and marked the reticle printout based on where the pellet hit. I could add more points of impact, but I just estimate the shots between. Works for me for Hunter FT. Was hitting targets from 10 yards up to 52.
Mac, this is cool. Thanks. I've wondered about this. I'm still new but my good rifles are trying to make me shoot accurate. I hope to try HFT as soon as I'm ready.

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