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I have 2 areas I do my target shooting/plinking.
One is only about 16 feet long and in my basement I have about 25 feet.
My thought is using the open sites on my air rifle is part of the challenge of shooting.
I have never used a scope before and was wondering first if the 2 spots I shoot are even far enough from the target to use a scope and if using a scope takes away some of the challenge?
In other words does a scope make to easy.

Thanks.

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Umarex Glock 19 v3
Stoeger XP4
Daisy 415
Slavia 630
Crosman phantom .22

Your vision depending but no. At those distances a scope offers no advantage over the irons. Even better you can use a diopter setup like the olympics on round targets. I found this to be far better than the crosshairs of a scope at 10m. In smallbore issf they use the same setup for 50m and the results are incredible. You would think they were shooting scoped from a rest by the score cards. Comes down to practice. A lot of it. However from a rest there is no contest. Scope wins.

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I have some airguns.

The diopter setup is something I'm not familiar with.
Where do you purchase them and is it adaptable to any gun?

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Umarex Glock 19 v3
Stoeger XP4
Daisy 415
Slavia 630
Crosman phantom .22

You want a 4X12 and adjustable AO. Anything bigger will not focus down at short distance. Leapers 4-12x40/44 or even better is Leaper 4-12 X50. Likely run you about $150 to $200. It is very common to have a scope more expensive than the airguns itself but remember the scopes remain with you as airguns are moved on or sold. My favorite is Hawke Scopes, I have a couple Discovery scopes (from Wes here on forum are nice and very reasonably priced) BSA and few others but all have adjustable AO. I shoot 15 feet and 33ft. Nothing worse than a blurry scope.

https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/ Wes has good scopes at just over $100. Great person as well and will not steer you wrong for a first scope.

Answer your question much more fun with scopes. But I am 60 years old. I do have a couple open sight guns as well. Scopes do not ruin the fun at all. I even have a shooting bench and a color TV on a firestick. I spend many hours pure week in my in-house target range.

CHEERS! and have fun.

I was born in 1950 & still do credible/1/2 decent shooting to 50yards with open sights on my muzzleloaders.
About everything else & all my .22's, other than the HW80 in .177, has/have scopes.
Notice I said "credible", not incredible. LOL
1" + a tiny bit is about the best I can do now, with my ML's at 50 yards with open sights.
On air rifles, open sights to 10 meters. Past that, I prefer apertures or scope. Back when I was shooting 3-position
and prone, I shot as well at 200yards with my match rifle, with it's apertures as I did with a 20X scope. Offhand back
then, I found 20X worked fine, however today, that is too much power for me, for standing.

Just shot this on last Saturday for an on-line postal match - 50 yards bench, open sights but hand held on bag. No rear bag.

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Best Wishes
Daryl

Shooting with scopes is not a bad idea~

My basement offers about 9 yards distance to me and I shoot with 10x44 scopes AND open sights (rear diopter + front globe ' Olympic style' sight).

With a scope, I can aim at tiny spot as big as (or smaller) than the pellet , and place pellets into the same hole. It's another type of challenges. And which I can't even see with the open sight at that distance.

With open sight, based on your previous experience, you have your idea ~ right?

Regards your case, I think you need to find the scope has the ability to focus at such a close distance. And looks the BugBlaster would be your only choice?! Because usually scopes for airgun can only focus as close as about 10m, and maybe even 8 or 9 meters you can still see a good picture with some adjustment... But if you go even more closer, you won't be able to see a clear sight picture...

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~Plinkers~
FX-M3-22 Compact#PP700-Carbine#Diana48-177#XS28M-25@26fpe#HW45 Beast#AW-Custom Z-Killer DE
~Competitors~
FWB300SU#Tau-7#IZH-46M#FWB-65#CP88-C
~Target~
HW 30s/35e/97k/40+Extender/P3+Scope/70#CZ200s Laminated@10fpe#AA ProSport-177@12fpe

You might think this is nit-picking, but aperture sights are not open sights. Open sights are open/bare to the elements.
They do not have apertures, which are holes through an enclosed housing. The proper terminology actually counts,
as there are rules for metallic sights (apertures) and there are rules for "any" sights which includes all sight types & there
rules for open sights, such as equipped on most non-match air guns, and specifically air-powered pistols. Open sights rules
do not allow any coverings over top of the sights.

Most scopes that are variable in power settings and have a 10 meter focus range, will usually focus closer when they are
adjusted to lower power settings.

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Best Wishes
Daryl

Yes~ that's the detail description of open sights and diopter (also means peep and aperture sight right?)... I usually think those simple iron sight (includes plastic now I think?!) without glasses and lens or batteries (dot sights) are open sight... My mistake ~

Take the chance (sorry, looks drifting the topic...) How about iris?? Is iris same as diopter?

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~Plinkers~
FX-M3-22 Compact#PP700-Carbine#Diana48-177#XS28M-25@26fpe#HW45 Beast#AW-Custom Z-Killer DE
~Competitors~
FWB300SU#Tau-7#IZH-46M#FWB-65#CP88-C
~Target~
HW 30s/35e/97k/40+Extender/P3+Scope/70#CZ200s Laminated@10fpe#AA ProSport-177@12fpe

Oh, and if using scope on very close targets, I think the scope mounting clearance to the action will be an important factor to consider. Which this would make the distance and zeroing very strict and minor adjustment (like distance from shooter to target) would lead to big zeroing changes....

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~Plinkers~
FX-M3-22 Compact#PP700-Carbine#Diana48-177#XS28M-25@26fpe#HW45 Beast#AW-Custom Z-Killer DE
~Competitors~
FWB300SU#Tau-7#IZH-46M#FWB-65#CP88-C
~Target~
HW 30s/35e/97k/40+Extender/P3+Scope/70#CZ200s Laminated@10fpe#AA ProSport-177@12fpe

The odd scope will not have the vertical adjustment, especially for springers, to zero at close ranges due to normal high mounting
and with springers, barrel droop. Angled bases like sold by Leapers, work well, with 17.1MOA and 21MOA slants.
Iris is the round opening in a diopter or aperture sight. Some of them have adjustable Iris's, like the A.J.Parker aperture sight I have
for my position rifle.

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Best Wishes
Daryl