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Looking to pick one of these up in .25... anybody ever try these rifles was going to get it in .495 fps and eventually custom tune it to a fps I like...are they easily tunable? What's the accuracy and barrel like?

There was another thread about these and the answer is yes. I didn't realize they came in low power.
That is likely as I never look at the low power rifles.

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Daryl

I would contact Wes at Air Gun Archery Fun as the definitive source of reliable information on the M11, but expect that part of what he will tell you is; there is a good amount of power adjustment externally via Hammer Spring screw at the back end of the gun but... I expect that it will already be at the highest setting in sub 500fps guns to avoid people accidentally breaking the law. The internal regulator will be set low and will allow the gun to realize its full potential.

Once Wes confirms this; the price is excellent, the performance is outstanding, and order a sling and studs to rig it for lugging it around on your shoulder..!

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Ya would love to do some pest control with a .25.....I have my .22 hw 110 set to 21 foot pound with a 14.3 grain pellet and it just rips right threw squirrels I mean they adventauly bleed out n die or die from a good heart n lung shot but they usually can crawl away or do a 20 yard sprint n disappear....even if I get a good follow up shot they get some adrenaline rush n dissapeer... I dont bait them with food so head shots are hard...I dont know how people can do it with a .177 so somthing with more stopping power and leave a bigger hole like a .25 would be great. I adventualy am getting the bigger tank for the hw 110 and going to have it shoot heavy slugs...but a .25 would be great in the mean time

I have done a lot of effective pest control over the years with Air Guns in .177 and .22 caliber; but the sound of a .25 at Point of Impact is a very distinctive SMACK and lets the vermin know there is a new sheriff in town; they best pick up stakes and move on to a new claim...

Dollar for Dollar, Pound for Pound, I know of no better deal than an M11 .25 from AirGun Archery Fun..!

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On the ground squirrels, I kept the range to 56yards for the farthest one.
All head and chest hits - no runnoffs or lost wounded. That is why I kept
the range close. HW97 .177 Blackline with Predator pellets. I expect the M11 will
extend that range a bit as it's much more powerful. I do hope the accuracy is up
to the level of the HW97's.

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Daryl

There has been some discussion on Paper Punching out to 100 yards with the M11 recently and I have no experience with this. While I'm confident the M11 is up to the task providing the shooter does their part, I doubt my ability to engage live targets at this range. I have a large selection of slugs and pellets to test the M11 at extended ranges but would only do so out of curiosity, having no practical value in what I do, or how I do it.
.25 cal ammo isn't a good choice for blasting away at paper, there are cheaper alternatives for testing your skill set. Costs of all ammo is increasing; and I will reserve my best/expensive/hard to get ammo for when it really counts hunting/pest control.

In particular, Ground Squirrels are most likely found near their tunnel entrances and there is nothing more disheartening than watching a squirrel crawl down into their hole after a badly placed shot. 50 yards is about my limit of confidence and I bought a Steel Shoot to Reset Squirrel Target to confirm my ranging before every session.
Even the Vermin deserve this consideration...

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Crawlaways are why we stopped using our HMR's out to 240yards on gophers. When we restricted our shooting to 200yards when using the Marlins, the crawl-offs stopped.
When using my little Martini HMR, though I was still able to get them (head and chest shots) out to the patch at 280yds.
With the air rifles, so far, 56 yards is tops. The fat one on the dirt was the 56yard rat - no blood. Interesting.

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Daryl

Ya cant stand crawl aways especially in a forest or any were makes me cringe...should be one hit dead. Definatly going to be switching to 21 grain slugs for my .22. And even better get a .25 cal Even with good shot placement they can vanish behind trees...or take a few minutes to fade away from a upper body shot...i'd never even try a .177 on a squirrel unless it was guaranteed head shot. I'd say .177 is for chipmunks tops nothing bigger....or small birds

Are you talking about Eastern ground hogs? I've never had a ground squirrel (Columbia Ground Squirrels) do anything but roll over at the shot
with head, neck or chest shots. That might be due to the Predator pellets at almost 900fps vel. I was using.
The Brits do OK with .177 and only sub 12fpe out to about 60yards on bunnies, squirrels and crows/corvids/magpies/jackdaw/pigeons, etc.
Takes an accurate rifle and practice.

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Daryl

Ya and the proper pellet....they will die from the 14.3 gr hollow point at 815 fps even if it's a bad placement like a belly shot they will guaranteed fade away just it may take a while...just noticed even with good placement in vitals it sometimes takes 4 or 5 minutes for them to fade and fall out of the tree even as close as 35-40 yards..so I defintaly reccomend heavy pellets going to switch to 22gr slugs for my .22 cal hw 110. And or use a .25 which will give alot more stopping power.

Ravenairgun- please don't shoot them if you cannot hit them in the head or chest.
I know they are rodents, but they still deserve a quick death. pow/flop/flip is the goal.
The flip is only with head shots. All of the neck and chest shots I made, were DRT.
At 14+fpe with my .177 air rifle, I had ZERO crawl-offs of losses.
I do not feel the .22 or even normal .25 PCP or springer air rifles are suitable for Eastern Woodchucks at more than point
blank ranges. I would lump the larger marmots into that same category - ie: 10 to 16 pound rodents are too tough for "normal" air rifles.
If the air gun produces FPE as high as .22 LR HP's, then it is suitable for chest and head hits. imho
That's 1,280fps with 38gr. as minimum. That's 138 fpe. That's just a stinking little .22 LR.

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Daryl

Ya that's the whole reason I made this thread and am looking to get a .25 even if it's just for squirrels. Like I said I noticed with even 21 fpe in .22 at 60 yards in the chest they still crawl 10 yards then die. That's with good placement......25 cal would be more effective or maybe .30 cal

You didn't answer the question about animals. Are you talking about Eastern Woodchucks or Hoary Marmots?

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Daryl

Black and grey squirells.....lol