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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:11 am 
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Hi all. Hope your day goes well.

Just got into shooting pistols in the garage with covid and winter and all that. Just purchased a pistol scope. The reticle is out of focus and wondering how best to proceed here.

My right (dominant) eye's vision has degraded (became nearsighted) over time. The left eye's still decent. The reticle looks blurry and remains blurry even all throughout the adjustment range of the eyepiece when using my right eye. The reticle looks fine when using my left eye. Never had this problem with my rifle scopes. The adjustment range of the eyepiece was always enough to get me a workable reticle. This is my first pistol scope though so maybe they work a little different from rifle scopes? Live and learn I guess. Also, is it possible I have a defective scope?

So... just guessing here but does this mean pistol scopes are not an option for me unless I get my right eye corrected in some way (glasses/contacts/lasik)? I guess I could learn to shoot with my left eye. It feels weird but at least it won't be too awkward of an adjustment compared to shooting a rifle.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:56 pm 
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I was just talking guns with my dad yesterday, and this subject came up. I'm pretty sure he has the same vision problems, you can see the target fine but not the reticle?
He adjusts the objective lense. Sounds like a fiddly job, but not too bad. But I suppose you would lose any nitrogen gas...

I'll ask him again.

Ok I got it wrong! :lol: the front lense adjusting is to adjust parallax on a non parallax adjustable scope. So you can shoot at 50 yards, etc.
He tells me, if you can't adjust your scope to your eye, you need to wear glasses and you will get that adjustment range back.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:22 pm 
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Adrian - it is interesting/confusing that you get a good reticle with the left eye, but not the right
& that there isn't enough adjustment in the ocular (rear) lens adjustment, to get a good reticle.
Since that doesn't happen with your rifle scopes, I suppose there could be a problem with THAT scope.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:24 pm 
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Exactly Al. I see the target just fine, it's nice and clear. But the reticle is blurred. I asked my brother to try it. His right/dominant eye is fine and sees the reticle just fine. He's a bit nearsighted on his left eye and sure enough, he said the reticle's a bit blurry using his that eye. No amount of eyepiece adjustment made the reticle clear enough for him.

Maybe I should get an optometrist to make me a monocle. Maybe grow a beard and stache to. And get a top hat. May not hit the target but at least I'll leave an impression to everyone who sees me shoot.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:31 pm 
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Could be Daryl. Maybe pistol scopes work a bit different too. They've got a much longer eye relief so maybe something in the way it works projects the reticle to seem like it's far from my eye? Or something like that. Anyway, can't really exchange it. It's out of stock from where I bought it from.

Maybe I should get lasik. Anybody here had lasik improve your shooting experience?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:54 pm 
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I wouldn't be surprised if, being a pistol scope with a longer eye relief, that it would be more temperamental to adjust. Especially if you have vision problems. Seems the scope works ok for both you and your brother's good eyes.

I played around with a scout scope, which is very similar, but didn't like how the focus changed the size of the sight picture along with the reticle itself it seemed.

Amazon sells those little 3moa red dot sights. I played with one. For a pistol shooting pistol ranges, I don't feel like it gets much better. Of course if the dot ends up looking like a blob, that's not good.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm 
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I'm very myopic also. The eyepieces on my scopes are screwed right out too.
I won't get lasik surgery. If I take off my coke-bottle glasses, everything 3" in front of my eyeballs is in razor sharp focus. I would lose that. Not happening.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm 
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I wear glasses and had similar results with a cheap scope. If I adjusted the ocular lens to bring the target into focus, the reticle was a thin, blurry line. If I brought the reticle into focus, the target was blurry.
And if I peeked over the top of my glasses the reticle was sharp, but the rest of the world is blurry.
I thought that might just be the way it was with my vision but then I bought a different scope and discovered that I could have both in focus.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:07 pm 
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When I shot Pistol field target, I went to the optometrist and asked for a single lens to fit my shooting glasses that focused exactly at the end of my pistol. I took something with me that was that length; didn't think holding a pistol up in his examination room would go over that well. The lens brought the front sight into perfect focus and although the target was a little blurry, I was able to shoot without any problem. I am not sure the same thing would translate for scope shooting, but perhaps the lens would bring the reticle in clear and the scope bring in the target clearly.

Just a thought since I have not needed the lens with a scope or red dot.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:14 pm 
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Tim- I found the same thing happened for me, with both .5 and .75 Diopter 'computer' glasses. I ordered the .25 and .5's from some place back in Ontaro (Google I used) and the
.75's with larger lens from an optometrist shop here in PG. The .25's didn't work, but the .5's and .75 did. 1.0 Diopter glasses would also have worked However the target was just too
far out of focus.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:33 pm 
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The scope and a trip to the reading glasses rack at the local pharmacy of dollar store might solve the problem, FWIW.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:39 am 
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some scopes have a ring to adjust reticle focus. If your scope doesn't have it, I would shoot with glasses on and just adjust scope focus to see target clearly in glasses. Since reticle is blurry only for one eye, I would assume that cheap reading glasses from wallmart might help. you can knock off one lens or cover it up for good eye.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:05 pm 
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Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. The reading glasses suggestion sounds intriguing and I may just try that out just for shooting. Didn't really get along with wearing glasses (slight headaches and eyestrain) a couple years ago. Just going to shoot with irons with both eyes open for now. My normal vision with both eyes open is enough to target shoot I'd say about 5 to 10 yards and of course to plink/have fun at 10 to 20 yards (and beyond).

You all have a good one! Enjoy the weekend.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:30 pm 
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Did you focus the reticle by adjusting the eye-piece? That could account for the blurriness.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:22 pm 
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Yup. Adjusted the eyepiece throughout its full range. Didn't help. But all good now. Sent the old scope back and getting a weihrauch pistol scope. Figured it's something used and trusted by airgunners over the years and should just work.


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