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 Post subject: Making some more grips!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:25 am 
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Figured I'd make another set of mk1 grips. This time they'll be straight, or ambidextrous. No thumb rest.

Jumping on the wagon here with a bit of a step by step.
Most will find my methods are probably a little redneck (wife called me a redneck today :lol: I don't mind) .

Anyway, I started with a 1" thick plank of cocobolo. Decided it would be smarter to split the wood first. Last time I cut them out a full inch thick.

So I clamp the board to the bench, and use the ol' skil saw.
I have to cut on 3 sides to get the depth of cut I need.
You can see that this is a less than ideal way to split a board like that. :lol:

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Then I pick a spot, trace the grip panels with a sharpie pen.
I orientated the grips so that the grain lines up when you look at it from the back of the handle when assembled.

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I cut the panels out with the scroll saw.

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That's it for now. I have some sanding drums for drill press kit coming in from the Amazon tomorrow. Hopefully they're decent.

Next I'll plane them down to the thickness I need, and layout the inletting... Stay tuned for that gong show :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:48 am 
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You're on to something splitting the 1" material and working with thin strips. The redneck circular saw will take out a lot of material though. I found that the band saw blade ,which is like 1mm thick, does a neat job of splitting the wood with a rip fence. I'm going to try splitting a section of oak for pistol grips - they will be relatively thin, light and ambi. I have had the oak tongue and groove flooring in my stock pile since about 2012 - it was a gift from R-Gun Pete who first inspired me to try making wood grips; it took me nearly 10 years to actually do it - but here we are!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:16 pm 
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Looking good KC! It's amazing what a guy can do with rudimentary tools, isn't it? I remember making a side table out of mahogany 40 years ago, going about it the same way as you, in a freezing cold garage. I've come a long way since then in my woodworking, but that side table is still in use!
I'm looking forward to seeing your end results.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:52 pm 
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You know Duke... I think I have some oak flooring in the basement somewhere... Hmm
I agree I lost a lot of material. Basically I ended up sanding the 2 halves even more. If I split the piece with a band saw I may have enough material to do 3 panels. Maybe...

I found this on Kijiji, was a block from my house. Good old school table saw. It's heavy. Hurt my back cramming it into the jeep :lol:
I gave it a good look over and it's in fine shape. Even has a finishing blade installed. For $100 how could I go wrong?

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JD, everyone has to start somewhere! I don't mind making workarounds. It's part of what makes me good at my job. Improvisation. When I was working underground, the only tools you have are a crescent wrench and an olfa knife. But nothing beats having the right tool for the job :lol:

I have finished sanding the grip panel edges, sanded them down flat and uniform as well. Used some sanding spindles from Amazon and my Mastercraft 4x36 belt sander.

I did the layout for the inletting. As you can see I marked center of the co2 cartridge bulge on the frame, then transfer that mark onto the grips. Pretty self explanatory I suppose.

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I'll try to cut the inletting with a Dremel tool. I have the Dremel drill press station, so I'll give it a go. Free hand milling at it's finest. If it doesn't work I'll use the lathe.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:19 pm 
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KC I hope that saw came with a throat insert and a fence. If not you will need to build them or source them somewhere. Its a cast iron table with stamped wings, check the saw for square with the cast and stamped, and adjust if necessary. For a hundred bucks you can't go wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:34 pm 
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Yes it came with all the parts. I had to take off the fence rails to make it fit. It's all together now. I also did look at the wings when I put it together, used a straight edge to compare with the cast portion. Still needs some fine tuning but I'll get to it.

I do need to figure out a dust collection shroud of some sort of it. That's the only thing... The new compact saws all seem to have vacuum ports.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:51 pm 
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Good score! I just have my shop vac handy and suck up the sawdust at the send of the day - but I'm working in my garage not in a shop so it's not so critical if nature takes its course (ie mess). Work work has put a damper on my woodworking, virtually no progress this week, but my half-round router bits should be delivered tomorrow... yay!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:11 pm 
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I do all the work in my garage also. I don't like sawdust though. All my other hobbies are do we in the same garage, so the dust gets into everything. I set up a small vacuum for the little tools I use, I intend to put together a cyclone dust collector, hoping it helps.

A router table might be by next addition... We will see


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:33 pm 
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There are a lot of routers/tables in my area on FB marketplace, generally full kit and caboodle for $100 sometimes less. My router and table (and quite a few bits) go back to mid 80's when i first started into cabinet making. I use it a lot.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:53 pm 
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KC, when I had a saw similar to that years ago, in my garage, I built a sloped piece of plywood under the saw, and sheeted in the legs with more plywood. Finished it off with lots of bits around the motor belt to seal it off, and lots of duct tape. I used my shop vac as a suction source, made my own cyclone over a garbage can, and stuck the vac hose through at hole in the plywood at the bottom of the sloped piece. It worked.The problem with using a shop vac, even with a cyclone, is how darned fast the filter plugs up, even the big ones. But it is better than not having any kind of dust collector, thats for sure!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:20 pm 
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killercrow wrote:
I do all the work in my garage also. I don't like sawdust though. All my other hobbies are do we in the same garage, so the dust gets into everything. I set up a small vacuum for the little tools I use, I intend to put together a cyclone dust collector, hoping it helps.

A router table might be by next addition... We will see


I made a "cyclone" type collector for a big shop vac. I took a big grease can that I got from a service station made a wooden top, two pieces one piece to just fit inside the other attached to it on top to keep it from falling in, some foam all the way around to make a good seal, then an outlet hole straight through to attach my vaccum hose, with a large coffee can with a matching hole cut in the bottom end and it is attached inside my lid, Then for my inlet hole just beside and a little away from the coffee can I made up a laminated block of wood so I get about a 90 degree turn to make the incoming air swirl around that coffee can. Result is that most of the heavier stuff, chips and larger sawdust particles fall out and I rarely have to clean the filter in my shop vac.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:05 pm 
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Yep, for the saw I'll probably just wire the vacuum hose up close to the blade. Might make some baffles out of cardboard to help.... Looks like it'll be easy enough.

Lots of tutorials for dust collectors on the YouTube though.
I'll put something together. The vacuum plugs up real fast :lol:

I found a few things on Kijiji for routers and such. Got a decent choice of routers, but not so much with tables. When the time comes I'll go with used.

So here's a bit of progress. The inletting is finished, everything fits. Didn't turn out perfectly... Couple oopsies here and there.
I did the valve body inlets with a sanding drums and a hand drill. Easier than chisels! The rest of the inletting was done with the Dremel and a hss milling cutter. Mounted to the Dremel drill press. Had the thing for years and never used it :lol: turns out it works quite nicely.

Starting the shaping process, I tilted the drill press table to get an angle and went at it with a sanding drum. It works. Will make final shaping with sand paper a lot easier I think.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:57 pm 
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There we go. All tweaked and fitted. Inletted for the safety lever too. They're a little beefy compared to the OEM grips, but I think those were designed for average sized hands.

Well here they are, one coat of tung oil so far. Probably do a couple more coats I suppose... As much as I like waiting :lol:

I've got a few other grips projects on the go also. Chopped up some maple and cut out some 22xx blanks so far... Looks overall a lot easier to build than mk1 grips. They'll be wider than OEM too.


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