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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:28 pm 
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Just found a forum (Swedish I think) where there are infos on vintage CZ/Slavia airguns (non-HTTPS): http://luftvapen.info/viewtopic.php?f=4 ... 7&p=282484

Also many of you know of this good one: http://www.vzduchovka.cz/

I hope the links will work :| .

I found out my CZ 236 is from before 1949, possibly 1946 or 1947 (serial# 29672). In 1950 they started production of the model 620, which replaced the 236.

Hoping this will be useful to some. Cheers!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:44 pm 
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Interesting reference. Thanks.

I own a 618 but it says that one has to register in order to follow the link. Since I only want one look, rather than add to the potential junk mail, I thought to ask of you have looked at that group and have the date information?

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Slavia 618 .177
Webley Senior .22
Jelly SUPER 4.5 mm
Webley Viscount .177
Kral Mega Marine Walnut .22
Artemis PP750 .22
FX Streamline .22 walnut
FX Streamline .22 composite
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:35 am 
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Here you go, from the Luftvapen.info site:

Old models unknown year:
Slavia APP661 (air pistol)
Slavia ZVP (air pistol)
CZ Model Vz-24
CZ Model Vz-35
CZ Model Vz-36 ( Military training air rifles as far as I know, I think those are the only air rifles made by CZ during the war. )

Year: 1936 - 1939
Model: Z 235, 236 och 237. (5-10000 guns per year/model.)

They seem to have completely stopped production of civil airguns during the WW2.

Year: 1945 - 1949
Model: Z 235, 236, 237, 800, 801, 802 and 47

Year: 1950 - 1958
Model: 802, 803, 603, 608, 612, 615, 618, 620, 622 and 624

Year: 1958 - 1965
Model: 603, 608, 612, 620 and 622

Year: 1965 - 1975
Model: 612, 614, 618, 620, 624, 630, 631 and 632

Year: 1975 - 1988
Model: 630 and 631

I think this pretty much covers the ''vintage period'' of the CZ/Slavia air rifles.

I'm currently rebuilding a 618 and a 622, can't wait to see them functionnal! Wish you a lot of fun with your 618 :) .

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:38 pm 
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Thank-you.

My old 618 was acquired, IIRC, before 1965 because I was (16) by then and had a break barrel .22, plus was too busy with driving and riding motorcycles.

I wonder if their dates might be off by 2 or 3 years?

Mine chronographed (July 23, 2020) Crossman Premier HP 7.9gr pellets 340 fps (291, 366, 364 fps) (2.03 ft/lbs), FWIW.

All parts are original, although the main spring has been shimmed with washers, and trigger sear surface has been built up with welding rod.

I hope to hear about your restoration.

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Slavia 618 .177
Webley Senior .22
Jelly SUPER 4.5 mm
Webley Viscount .177
Kral Mega Marine Walnut .22
Artemis PP750 .22
FX Streamline .22 walnut
FX Streamline .22 composite
FX Dynamic 500 .22


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:30 pm 
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Thank-you.

My old 618 was acquired, IIRC, before 1965 because I was (16) by then and had a break barrel .22, plus was too busy with driving and riding motorcycles.

I wonder if their dates might be off by 2 or 3 years?


Quite possible, since CZ didn't kept records of their airguns manufacturing dates.

Normk wrote:

Mine chronographed (July 23, 2020) Crossman Premier HP 7.9gr pellets 340 fps (291, 366, 364 fps) (2.03 ft/lbs), FWIW.

All parts are original, although the main spring has been shimmed with washers, and trigger sear surface has been built up with welding rod.

I hope to hear about your restoration.


Thanks for these infos Norm!

I just finished rebuilding the 618 and the 622. The 618 is shooting a Crosman 7.9 gr wadcutter @ 345 fps, and the 622 shoots a 11.9 gr Hobby @ 285 fps. My other 618 is shooting remarkably close to her sister, 343 fps with the same 7.9 gr pellet, and my 624 is the ''powerhouse'', shooting a 7.9 gr pellet @ 429 fps (same exact velocity as my 620 :) ).

I re-used the OEM spring in the 622, and made a new nylon parachute seal as the original polymer piston seal (nylon?) was cracked. I replaced the rotten leather breech seal with a custom-made rubber one, and replaced the stock steel spring guide with a delrin one (along with a top hat in the piston). Did a quick polish job on the sear/piston rod and lubed with WS2 paste and all is good!

I had to replace the collapsed spring in the 618, I used a Beeman Biathlon main spring with a custom delrin spring guide and top hat, Also used a rubber breech seal on it, but for this one I made a new piston leather seal. I'll also need to re-check it, as the sear is not very reliable (pretty worn), the rifle has a tendency to auto-fire :shock: . But not a biggie, I can always make new parts 8) :) .

In the picture, left to right:

Slavia 618 - the one I just rebuilt. It has a ''short'' barrel @ 14''. Unknown date of manufacture.

Slavia 618 - ''long'' barrel @ 15 3/4''. This one is from 1967.

Slavia 622 - the one I just rebuilt. Unknown date of manufacture.

Slavia 624 - my ''little one that could''! Unknown date of manufacture.

Slavia 620 - this one is from 1971. Smooooth rifle :) .

CZ 236 - probably from the second half of the 40's, after the WW2. This one's also very smooth, and a gem to shoulder and shoot :D .


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:27 am 
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Just qurious. Is the 622 a .22 caliber. If so they seem to be very rare. I checked your links hoping to find parts for my newly aquired 631 Lux. Specifically a front sight. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:20 pm 
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Just qurious. Is the 622 a .22 caliber. If so they seem to be very rare.


Yes the 622 is a .22 caliber, as far as I know the only one made on this (small) platform. And that's true we don't hear much about them. I was lucky to find this one with the bluing and wood in good condition, and after a few repairs it's a very pleasant shooter!

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I checked your links hoping to find parts for my newly aquired 631 Lux. Specifically a front sight. Any suggestions?
thanks


I did a quick search and these sights are not easy to find. I found one place in Czech Republic that has them in stock:

https://www.kentaurguns.com/slavia-630-631-front-sight/

Usually this place is also good for ''exotic'' spare parts: https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/24503/631/ , but they're currently out of stock.

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:17 pm 
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Thanks for the link, I will check it out. BTW, pretty nice cpllection of Slavias. The 620 being my very first shooting iron, bought at Woolco for 13 dollars about 1970. I have fond memories.


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