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 Post subject: TX200 safety not working
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:52 pm 
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Hi all.
I got my new TX200 .177 12ftlb today from AGS. First of I'll say shipping was extremely fast.
Initial impressions are I'm really impressed with the accuracy. It will put 10 shots in the 9 ring on a 10 meter target at 10 meters. When I first cocked it the safety never came on. After about 30 shots it started to work randomly maybe every 2nd or 3rd shot it would come on. Now it comes on about 1/2 the time. Is this a simple fix, it's got a 1lb trigger. I don't want to send it back if it's a simple adjustment or lube issue.

I also received my HW30S from the air gun forum store. I ordered it wed. Extremely fast shipping. It's a fantastic little gun. 10 shots under a dime at 10 meters out of the box.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:14 pm 
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Wow, you have some nice new toys. :mrgreen:
E-mail Travis and ask what you can adjust, if he OK's it I think you will be pretty safe (no pun intended) to do it and not void your warranty.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:33 pm 
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My two tx200 are from AGS and had a few used ones in the past. They all experienced the safety not engaging if I didn’t pull hard enough on the under lever to engage it.

Im not sure there is a fix. Let’s see what others post.
Congrats on both. I use the HW30s the most.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:50 pm 
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187_cuteness wrote:
My two tx200 are from AGS and had a few used ones in the past. They all experienced the safety not engaging if I didn’t pull hard enough on the under lever to engage it.

Im not sure there is a fix. Let’s see what others post.
Congrats on both. I use the HW30s the most.



If I had of gotten the HW30S first I might not have bought the TX. Lol
I think my girlfriend already claimed the HW30S

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:07 pm 
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In my experience, I agree with Rodney. Good firm pressure at the end of the cocking stroke usually does the trick.

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Yep, same at my Pro Sport...

At the beginning, I might be just too gentle when cocking it... And as Mac said, give it a good firm press at the end of the cocking will engage the safety~ try this first~

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:21 pm 
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YepYep wrote:
Yep, same at my Pro Sport...

At the beginning, I might be just too gentle when cocking it... And as Mac said, give it a good firm press at the end of the cocking will engage the safety~ try this first~


I took the trigger out of it and cleaned some of the gobs of grease out of the safety spring. I also took the main spring out and removed some of the grease off of it. It had a lot of grease on it. Haven't tried it again as of yet.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:44 pm 
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After cleaning up some of the excess grease the safety is engaging every time now.

Now if I can learn how to use my scope... I put a Hawke Sidewinder 10-50× on it. I've never used a scope where the poi changed depending on the zoom settings

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:44 pm 
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I'd post a picture but apparently I can't figure it out.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:31 pm 
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NovaNewfie wrote:
After cleaning up some of the excess grease the safety is engaging every time now.

Now if I can learn how to use my scope... I put a Hawke Sidewinder 10-50× on it. I've never used a scope where the poi changed depending on the zoom settings
Glad you got it sorted. That is a lot of glass for the TX. Is the sidewinder springer rated?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:47 pm 
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Buddy of mine has a Hawke 10-50 on his TX with no issues. For FT, 10-50 is fairly standard. Never had a scope change its point of impact when zoom is adjusted. Make sure the scope is correctly mounted and screws are all torqued enough.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm 
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The scope should not change poi with power changes. To check that, aim at an object with the scope set low, ie" 10X and holding the rifle steady, increase the power setting. If the reticle moves, then the scope is junk. I would send it back.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:55 am 
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Daryl wrote:
The scope should not change poi with power changes. To check that, aim at an object with the scope set low, ie" 10X and holding the rifle steady, increase the power setting. If the reticle moves, then the scope is junk. I would send it back.


Maybe I worded it wrong. It doesn't hit the same spot when you up the zoom. I think it has to do with it being second focal plane?
It's a 10-50×60 SF: 20x TMX IR

I'm pretty sure it's working properly, it was used or a demo. I bought it from AGS, Travis used it last year.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:14 am 
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I have had intermittent problems with the safety on my TX (bought used).
Since the safety is the very last thing that engages on the end of the cocking stroke it is possible to cock the gun and have it ready to fire without the automatic safety engaging. This has always struck me as a bit odd and self-defeating for something intended to be an automatic safety, but when you look at how the internals work it is a pretty simple system and trying to have the safety click on before the gun is fully cocked would likely add a lot of complexity.
Anything that inhibits the very end of the full cocking stroke can cause this problem - something as simple as a little bit too much lube/gunk can make it happen. Other causes that I have experienced are: a slightly loose bolt on the trigger block, fitting some combination of top hat, spacer washers, spring that interferes with complete travel of the cocking stroke.
I love my TX, this is the only part of this gun that I have had to fiddle with.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:01 pm 
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NovaNewfie wrote:
Maybe I worded it wrong. It doesn't hit the same spot when you up the zoom. I think it has to do with it being second focal plane?
It's a 10-50×60 SF: 20x TMX IR

I'm pretty sure it's working properly, it was used or a demo. I bought it from AGS, Travis used it last year.


Once dialed for a particular distance, the POI should not change regardless of the zoom. 10-50 it should hit the exact spot. If you are shooting at different ranges, that is a separate thing. You would have a zero range from about 20-30 yards and anything outside this range would need clicking or holdover to hit where it should.

I know the scope well, I had it in my cart and changed my mind when I thought about how many scopes I already own. :D

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