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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:11 pm 
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Co2 refillable cylinders went the way of the dodo bird. Is the same thing going to happen to pcp in say the next 15 years? Obviously no one had a crystal ball but is there any hint of something else coming?

I am looking at the feinwerkbau pcp pistols which are quite costly. Aparently the aluminum refillable tanks are only good for ten years. Will new tanks still be available to purchase in 10 years?

I don’t want to buy this thing then in 10 years i cant use it as tanks are not available


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:25 pm 
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No PCP will not disapear in the next 50 yrs, neither will CO2, nor spring piston power plants.
The 10 year life of PCP cylinders is an overabundance of caution without any experience/data to back it up. Any pressure vessel can fail when pressurized, that is true, but there is no direct link to its age in years. And I have never seen any fatigue-fill/life data published for PCP cylinders and I doubt very much the manufacturers even have generated these data to say what the life of their tubes are. Probably the only manufacturers that do have such data are the HPA bottle makers, and you may be aware they do not have a life limit as long as their volume is under 1 l.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:21 pm 
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I believe PCP will be here for a long time, I doubt it will go away.

The next big thing will be magnetic propulsion (Rail guns). The military has large versions. I expect you will see hand held military versions within the next decade, If not a lot sooner.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:23 pm 
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PCP has been around since the late 1700s so it seems to be staying. As was recently discussed on the forum, there is still some room for improvement with PCP rifle designs (OEM debounce hammer). We've seen lots of PCP rifle improvements since the 1700s but it's still a PCP. Manual pumps, compressors and tanks have also improved over the years with prices becoming reasonable.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:36 pm 
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The new thing, which really isn't new, will be more helium powered PCP rifles, I assume, strictly for hunting.
Google Helium 20 mm.
This was 6 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAjZ8GY ... llowpoint1

Not sure Helium IS the future. The Umarex Zeus .72 does 1,500fpe & that is all this slightly undersized 8 bore is doing.
8 bore is actually .835", with a solid round ball of pure lead that size, weighing 875gr., 8 to the pound. That is what "BORE" means
while 20 mm is nominally .7844", so a 10 bore, at .774" is less than 20 mm.

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2023 9:19 pm 
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There are only so many non-chemical ways of storing and releasing enough energy in a short enough time to be useful for launching projectiles.

I could see a PCP with an internal pump running on batteries someday perhaps, but it will still be compressed air driving the projectile.


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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 5:23 am 
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Shooter519 wrote:
Co2 refillable cylinders went the way of the dodo bird. Is the same thing going to happen to pcp in say the next 15 years? Obviously no one had a crystal ball but is there any hint of something else coming?

I am looking at the feinwerkbau pcp pistols which are quite costly. Aparently the aluminum refillable tanks are only good for ten years. Will new tanks still be available to purchase in 10 years?

I don’t want to buy this thing then in 10 years i cant use it as tanks are not available

The 10 year rule only applies to competative shooting in the ISSF. Regardless whether it's good or not tanks older than 10 years may not be used. Any credible manufacturer of competative airguns like Feinwerkbau will have tanks to sell for every model from past to present. For other use any tank less than 2" in diameter or less that 61cc is exempt from hydro testing. The real impact is refilling as scuba and paintball shops used to be the main source and they are supposed to check hydro dates. The latter I've never seen happen, ever. These days personal compressors are common so I guess we will see how valid hydro testing actually is.

PCP is the standard in 10m. It's going no where in the forseeable future. People still used co2 in issf 10m and quite frankly still better than all but the elite shooters.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:54 am 
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With the way things have been going for the shooting sports in today's political climate, sad to say that we may be looking at guns that shoot nothing more than a light beam.

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Anything that looks like a gun will eventually be considered an "assault-style weapon" so do not count on it...


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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:46 pm 
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PCP will be around for while... that is, until politicians take an interest in them :axe:


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