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Match pistols are stocked for a single hand holding them. Very awkward with 2 hands - next to useless, as a matter of fact with 2 hands.
With one of those, I can see perhaps being more accurate with one hand, as they are meant to be fired.

Revolvers and semi-auto pistols are stocked, normally, for 1 or 2 handed holding & are much more accurate when held that way. Yes, there
are some grips available with thumb rests - They are abominations!LOL

Try shooting a 2 or 3 pound trigger, single handed. Good luck.
Those 10meter pistols are for that type of shooting & nothing else, as well as having 2 to 4 ounce triggers.

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Daryl

I still think that with 10m target pistol you get much better precision than using any pistols, holding using 2 hands. Mainly because your joints are locked.

But I agree that with service pistol you are much more accurate using both hands, since if you try to lock your joints while holding it by one hand you'll probably shoot your foot

You can lock your joints shooting 2-handed, it's just that recoil then slows target acquisition for the second and subsequent shots.
For deliberate bullseye shooting at such a close range, for me, 2 hands beats one hand every day. It's how I was taught and taught
others.
If you shoot more accurately with one hand - bravo! Not for me.

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I am pretty sure that a 10M pistol has to have at least a 500 gram pull weight, which is over a pound. It is such a niche sport, that very few are familiar with it. I do not see it translating well to more practical uses of a pistol, such as hunting or defence. In Canada, it is pretty much simulations at a range.

Cowboy action is pretty wild and I think they shoot one handed with the pistol. The real good ones are scary accurate and fast.

Perhaps just shooting the way you prefer in the circumstances you prefer is the answer. Total agreement seldom happens and is certainly not necessary.

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I've shot cowboy action couple times and only one of the disciplines is one handed, seems to me. The one shooting cap and ball revolvers. My Bro does that one and well.
He uses a matched pair of 1851 Navy's for the revolver episode and an 1873 in .44/40 for the rifle, along with a hammer SxS 12 bore.
I think, all the rest of the disciplines allow 2 hands, which is MUCH easier to hit with - quickly. One thing about cowboy action, you can't miss quickly enough to win.
I've shot a couple of them, scoring fairly well, a second and a first. New sport to me. Wild bunch, I think was one class, allowing 1911's & 1897 Winchester scatter guns - LOL, loved it.
along with Cold Lightning pump action .45 Colt ammo. VERY fast shooting rifle.
My first event was with .45 colt revolvers, the Lightning and hammer'd scatter gun. Didn't win that one - second or might have been 3rd.
We picked teams for the open event on the Sunday. I shot my 1876 Winchester in .50/95. My team won that one, nicely. I took all the long range silhouettes and left the
close range targets to the pistol ctg. lever guns. We only had a bunch of targets at 200 and 150 meters. They all fell to the 12 round capacity .50/95. My second rifle was
Taylor's .45 Colt Lightning for the closer targets. Had one guy on my team using a Sharps and he shot all the 100 meter targets, while the rest of the crew and me shot the
close ones. We found out a replica 1873 shooting.38 SPL's will not knock over our steel targets. LOL Seems to me, the teams were 7 or 8 each. We automatically shot targets
we knew we could hit.
I dearly love "action shooting" in competition. Adds spice to life.

In line with the thread, we all aimed, every shot. Proper trigger control WITH aiming, constitutes hitting as the PRIME result.

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Daryl

Shot this last night. The trigger pull wasn't perfect on the 8. So yeah aiming is useless if your trigger pull isn't perfect.

That is excellent shooting. People who have not tried it do not know how difficult it is to keep that pistol still enough to hit mostly 9s and 10s.

I sold all my 10M pistols since they were not getting used. From time to time, I miss the Walther LP200 I had; I won a good number of pistol FT matches with that one. That was a two hand hold, arms extended, off my knee in a sitting position. At 10M, I could stack pellets all day. Open sights shooting at 25 yard field targets was more the limitation of the shooters vision than anything else. Putting open sights on a hit zone somewhere on a brightly painted Marvin the Martian, at 25 yards, was a challenge, but a heck of a lot of fun.

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Tim
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Very impressive. The only way that I can stack pellets at 10m is when the pistol is clamped to a bench

I find 10m pistol to be an excellent sport. I don't worry about the equipment (any decent target pistol and cheap pellet can out shoot most shooters) so I only focus on my technique. If I don't get 100 then it's my fault.

3 bulls - standing 2 handed with 21.3gr. H&N & one rested.
Fired top left, top right, bottom left, then the rested target. Got better each time.
I should have used the Hades as these have proved to be more accurate in that pistol.
.22 cal. PP700S-A - of course, it's not a "10 Meter Match Pistol" by any standards - but seems not too bad.
With some practice, groups would improve, of course.
Bottom target are 10 shot groups with JSB Hades pellets, 15.89gr.- rested.

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Daryl

Great shooting. Thanks for putting mine to shame lol.

You should try wad cutters, much cleaner holes.

Your target is just fine. I could not do that with one hand. At 73, too much shake and rock. Or is it rock and shack & wobble?
My pistol does not like wadcutters. I tried some Crossman, long time ago. Actually, I think I wad shooting 20yards that day.
These are some groups with the PP700. It does have a red-dot sight on it. This was my first day at the range with it. The bottom
targets are 10 meter air rifle targets, shooting for groups testing different pellets.
I was quite impressed with this pistol's accuracy.
These are all aimed shots.

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Daryl

This is how I shot the pistol FT courses. You can see the crazy colours on the targets that made aiming past about 15 yards more difficult. Just bearing down on the target in this view.

Click on the pic to get a good view.

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Tim
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Interesting style of hold. The single hand grip looks quite uncomfortable - felt that way for me, which is why I sold my FWB model 2.
Something shiny I needed more, probably caught me eye.

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Daryl

That grip felt like a glove to me. I gripped it with my right hand like 10 M and my left hand pulled it into my knee and steadied the hold. You can see my left thumb catching on the flange at the back of the grip, while my fingers were laced overtop of my right hand fingers. Worked for me. I had it sighted for 25 yards at six o'clock, so I was holding below the hit zone for every shot so the target would not be covered by the sights. I only shot in the open sight division with the Walther. There were three divisions: Open sights, non-magnified optics and scope up to 12X.

I liked it simple. Maybe that is why I shoot spring guns in FT.

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Tim
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I can visualize (see) that hold working in the position you were, pulling it back against the knee (bag). Holding with both hands, standing is MOST uncomfortable
with formed single shot grips. It's not impossible, just not as good as smooth grips allowing a proper 2 handed hold.

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Daryl