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This pro shooter thinks it is.....What are your thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li0rGtXh23I

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You left the "unless" part out, which is pretty important.

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Tim
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Agreed with Mac. Action shooting perhaps but percision shooting you absolutely have to aim. That's the whole point.

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Could this have anything to do with why my range friends have been encouraging me to try out for the CNIB team?

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Thats why the sent troops to Vietnam with full auto M16's. Point in the general direction of your target and unload.

But at 200-300 yards. I'd rather have an accurate bolt action rifle with a scope.

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Be The Pellet

I get this, Its all about establishing muscle memory, and getting a better feel of the mechanics of shouldering the gun. This is quite useful for action, trap, skeet and hunting fast targets.

Something I did to speed myself up is to shoulder the gun, think shoot and take a shot. It removes the hesitation.

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Jerking the trigger will definitely cause one to miss a target, but once you no longer do that, aiming and follow through become important. I get what the guy is saying, that aiming is useless if you jerk the shot. So aiming is useless, unless you can hold your aim point steady through the shot. It just seem pretty basic and this guy makes a video about it, like it is a huge, new revolution in shooting.

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Tim
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Right near the start, he stated, it's useless to focus on aiming, if you can't hold the gun straight.
Thus, you need to train trigger control. & like he said, ammo is not necessary.
Everyone is making videos about everything today.
Without trigger control(& follow through), aiming IS useless. Completely agree with him. Rob is a legend amongst steel challenge and ipsc.
He won both, before red-dot sights became normal & did it with a 1911 .45 ACP, tricked out just a bit.
My boys in the riot & perimeter security squad didn't use nor need the sights out to 25 yards, on our Model 10 S&W's.
We focused on instinctive shooting - but - to shoot a perfect score on the 'course', sights were needed. LOL
For shooting the steel plates at 100yards, we aimed of course, but DA only allowed. Good, accurate bunch of guys.

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Daryl

He did get over 6M views with the catchy title, there has to be monetary value there?

Seriously, this gunslinger "John Wick" style shooting takes a gifted person to be able to do this. Practice and more practice will advance your ability but nowhere near what these pro's can pull off.

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Once you replace negative thoughts with positive ones, you'll start having positive results.
- Willie Nelson

"If our freedom is taken, the American dream will wither and die."
- Rand Paul

Several years ago I attended Front Sight (now named Prairie Fire, I think...) in Pahrump Nevada and completed their four day defensive handgun course. I took my own 1911 in .45acp. Long story shorter -They guarantee they can teach you to draw from concealed and put two rounds in the thoracic cavity of a silhouette target in 1.5 seconds or less. They got this old geezer down to .9 seconds. My friend and I shot together and both of us shoot master class in bullseye shooting. At three meters, our group was dead center and pretty much a big ragged hole. The range master told us to quit aiming at 3 meters. He said, "With the way you guys shoot, don't try to aim. Get the bullets out of the gun as quickly as you can as soon as you think you're roughly on target. You guys won't miss, I'm sure. In addition, you do more damage to your assailant when the impacts aren't so close together." It felt weird, but it did speed things up and opened up the group size too. I tried it at 5 meters and results were a few misses. With a LOT of practice, you could probably move back to 10 meters and still keep hits in the scoring area. Several thousand rounds a week for a few years should suffice...

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Me thinks you are guilty of the same click bate as the guy in the video.

That's why in real world from strategic, 70% of the rounds missed at 5 yard range while conducting self-defense. They teach you fire as fast as possible, not as accurate as possible, and no doubt why people can still survive and run away after taking multiple shots.
But here is the thing, if you only have one gun, and you got a group bad guys around you--which happened a lot instead of just one or two, you emptied the magazine towards one of them, then what else you can do

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Tim
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i mean if you ever played paintball no one directly aims thats why they dont have sights on them...u shoot ur paintball and see were it lands and use that as a guide for ur next shot....thats why profesional target shooters with airguns usualy use low velocity like 500 fps so they can see there pellet as there shooting it....that really is the best most accurate way to aim imo....thats why they make tracer rounds as well in real ammunition...not really good for super long distances or for hunting....

For action shooting sure. Stationary target shooting, even in ipsec, you aim with sights/optics. In ISSF 10m no one is concentrating on the flight of the pellet.

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