Canadian Airgun Forum

canadaman30, your point is well made and clear, and you are certainly justified in your opinion and feelings about the gun. There are a select bunch of members on this forum who have a different purpose in this hobby, and it involves physical interaction and tuning of the mechanisms. Although I am among this group, I also know that others just want to shoot out of the box and your gun should do just that. I hope you can get some satisfaction and can recoup some of your investment in this PCP gun. Maybe the vendor will repair it or otherwise compensate you. I'm confident you can sell it and the accessories on this Forum at not too great a loss. Best wishes, I hope you have something else reliable to shoot with.

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not normal for any pcp gun to do....if ur guns under warranty return it for a new one or who ever u bought it from tell them to send u a new one...were did you get the gun from? sounds like a busted seal or somthing with the regulator i think u just need to change an oring or a seal...

Hi~ canadaman30... Actually I think I understand you for some point... The PCPs are great 'invention' and a reflection of the modern airgun technology for sure. However sometimes I still love the old school springers so much as they are just too simple not to love it (especially compare to the complexity of a PCP)...

Myself sometimes feel so frustrated or tiresome when fine tuning my PCPs... It costs lot of time and money... I shot about 1500 pellets in tuning my Impact M3 so far already... And it's keep going...

However just like the autos... We had the simple inline 4 or V6... Then twin cam, Vtec, turbo, Bi-Turbo, VTG... Things and stuffs are evolving all the time. They became complicated to be capable for higher and higher expectations from end users.

I read your first impression of the new gun. And see you were surprised by its accuracy right out of the box too, right?

Of course, now you found some flaws about it which we think it might be an easy fix. However, as an end user and it's a brand new out of box gun, I agree you don't need to touch anything but just let the seller know then the best solution would be ship it back and get it all checked then fixed and ship to you to enjoy again...

Good luck and keep on enjoy shooting~

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FX M3-22 Compact#PP700 Carbine#Diana48-177#XS28M-25@26fpe#HW45 Beast#AW-Custom Z-Killer DE
~Competitors~
FWB300SU#Tau-7/IZH-46M/FWB-65/CP88
~Target~
HW 30s/35e/97k#CZ200s Laminated@10fpe#AA ProSport-177@12fpe#HW40+Extender/P3+Scope/70

just wondering what pressure were u filling it to how many bar?

Now we are getting somewhere. So you are telling us the valve is not fully closing as this is the only path for muzzle leak. That could debris is on the backside of the poppet, there are many sources for this. It is possible that it was in the tank from the beginning or may have come from your filter or the pump that you are using to fill the gun. If the debris is not from the gun and it's from a different source, this would be the same as putting dirty gas into a brand new vehicle. As other stated, being able to maintain your own gun, whether on the first day or the 500 th day is certainly a chore that needs to be undertaken.

Robert

My 1st airgun pcp was a Dreamline classic,they were the airgun of the year.Well i got my,unpacked it.Cleaned it etc.I took one shot,that was it.Lost all aair.Being new to pcp,it was a challenge,to get air.Sent it back,for warranty work.11/2 wks. there & back.Then the magazine spring broke.Another 11/2 weeks to get a replacement.Ordered 2 more,just in case.Lost all confedince in the gun.So got a return & upgraded to a crown laminate.Got it ,very accurate,no problems,just to pretty for my likeing.TRaded up to an Impact,still have it & enjoy it

Just a side note:
There is no first time user of a $3500 barebone air rifle - around a Globe - that did not blow the Regulator oring - in a very first 5 minutes of use !!! None, again repeating = around a globe. I don't know how many thousands they sold around a globe but the demand is so high they cannot manufacture all that volume they could be selling.
And even there is in the manual and online and in the Utube that - do not do this and that, because.... of that.
I don't know what to say to OP how to encourage for learning curve but looks like he is a hardwired NO.
Sometimes money is just not enough to drive a supercar, you need a training and license first.

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Edgun Leshiy2 - heavy modded
and a lot more scopes with great glass

LOL~ yeah~ That's so true... And some times the learning curve is just a pain in the xxx... You might gave up in the half way... And you need to focus on how good it is and encourage youself to keep going... [emoji38]

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~Plinkers~
FX M3-22 Compact#PP700 Carbine#Diana48-177#XS28M-25@26fpe#HW45 Beast#AW-Custom Z-Killer DE
~Competitors~
FWB300SU#Tau-7/IZH-46M/FWB-65/CP88
~Target~
HW 30s/35e/97k#CZ200s Laminated@10fpe#AA ProSport-177@12fpe#HW40+Extender/P3+Scope/70

Thank you all for your offerings, but for now I think I'm done with PCP.

My budget was 1500.00 to try PCP, I was able to achieve five mins before equipment failure in need of repair.
Will I get twice as many shots out of it the next time, how long until the next failure needing repair?

I didn't buy a rifle to work on fix and repair, it was purely for shooting enjoyment which evidently seems unachievable to the user/operator. As an end user/operator the efforts evidently far outweigh the rewards, leaving me no valid reason to continue this pursuit

Cheers

Thanks, such kind words .
May ask how many days a week do you drive 250km/h, care to compare?
Do the best race drivers fix their own cars?
BTW, as previously stated I purchased a gun to shoot not to work on fix and repair, my mistake purchasing a PCP.

how many bar did u fill it to...what are u using to gas ur gun....were u dry firing your gun like shooting it without pellets in it?

ive left my pcp air rifles hanging on the wall...gassed with air....picked them up like 8 months later and shot it and it was fine..didnt even have to adjust the scope....

not that your supose to do that but theres nothing wrong with pcp rifles exept if you dont know how to use them or get it replaced...

The gun was topped using new hand with moisture filtration component to approx 2900psi. Gun arrived with approx 2000psi that didn't change for a week before I topped to 2900psi for function test. The regulator remains untouch set at 1900psi. Fired both 10rd magazines, returned rifle to storage still above set regulator pressure. Gun now passes air out muzzle enough I can hear it dumping 3000psi in a few hours.

I'm a shooter, not a repairman. If constant teardown, repair or replace is PCP commonplace, it's obviously not for me.

Hope your next shooting experience is positive.

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you had the reg set to 1900 psi or 1800 psi?

if you had the reg at 1900 psi thats 100 psi more then recomended for your regulator if you have the .22 version

also if you coated ur gun in olive oil and the oil gets into the gun it can damage and swell seals and make debris stick to the inside....

There is a big difference between repairing a gun and cleaning the backside of the poppet. The valve on your gun has a poppet, seat, and return spring. A micro piece of debris may be able to be dislodge just by shooting the gun, or a teardown may be needed. The only path of air to the muzzle is through the valve or around the valve if the valve is made of multiple pieces and screwed together internally. Then tightening is required.

You are right, after reading all your comments I think airgun ownership is not for you.

Robert