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 Post subject: PCP shooting experience
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 8:51 am 
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Bought my first pcp a few years ago. After shooting springers for a couple years along with powder burners for many many years. Buying a used pcp, budget friendly even bought new, and an SCBA tank and fill station I had a total of around $500 invested. I shot 1000’s of pellets and eventually slugs through the airgun without so much as a hiccup. Great experience compared to springers in which springer overall were a great experience also just much easier to shoot pcp’s without breaking scopes or losing your sight pic after pulling trigger.
Enjoyed pcp’s so much I bought a second and eventually a third pcp and never had a problem. Even if there would of been a hiccup the great members here on CAF would of offered assistance in a heartbeat. Thanks for reading my rant. Lol.


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:15 am 
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From the very first shot I knew PCP would be my way forward. There was a time a fwb300s would've been my end all and be all but now it would just be a safe queen after purchasing a fwb800.

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 10:46 am 
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My first pcp and still have it, was a B51 from the forum store. They were cheaply priced. Couldn’t hold air when i bought it. Took it apart and the valve stem was broken. Walter spun one up for me and it fixed it. I haven’t shot it for a few years and it still holds air.


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 5:16 pm 
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PCP to me is a hard to say experience...

To be honest, 50/50?!

On one hand, the PCPs just so impressive!! Easy to use, great accuracy, and the accuracy just too easy to gain...

On the other hand, It's really much more complicated than the other power plants... You need add-ons to make it run and keep it running... And it might be easy to deal with (just some screws and orings...) But not exactly... Good manufactures use better materials and have better designs... Others you might make more troubles while trying to fix a simple issue...

It's somehow like the electrical vehicles... Everyone can make electrical cars now days. And those cars can have better,much better accelerating, faster, fancier.. than the traditional vehicles... 20K to get a car which can send you to 100km/h in 3 seconds... Good or not?!

I like PCPs... However I still keep my lovely springers and co2, of course the SSPs... Never think I could jump in the pond with both my feet yet... Because I still have other choices?! Don't know...

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 5:56 pm 
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Many/most here have more competence and experience, but I've shot ~30,000 pellets in the last 2-1/2 years, virtually all PCP.

Mixed, but mostly poor results with Yong Heng compressors. I recently switched from YH and SCBA tank to GS CX3, and so far so good, although slower and noisier filling.

Some very bad experiences with a couple of popular dealers, but no problems with Diana Stormrider, Kral Mega Marine (once another dealer dealt with the warped stock under warranty- Thanks Ramen), Artemis PP750, and FX Streamline. WH100 (bought used, lots of problems, including with a dealer's repairs, but working well at present after sorting it myself).

If had it to do again, I would have begun, as some members advised, with the FX. The Stormrider is a fun little gun but hasn't the accuracy to reach the longer .22 RF metallic silhouettes, Kral is marginal. Yeah, starting higher priced would have saved a lot of headaches and costs.

I've certainly had challenges with air guns, as compared to powder burners, but the ~95% of shooting on air guns demonstrates where my interest and gratification lie.

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 11:45 pm 
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why dont they make repeater springers? they would probably destroy the pcp market...


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 12:07 am 
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Ravenairgun wrote:
why dont they make repeater springers? they would probably destroy the pcp market...


There is springer repeater (IZH61). And no it didn't "destroy" the PCP market.


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 1:00 am 
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no thats not what i mean i seen these before....i mean like a springer rifle with lever or bolt action not a giant pull back lever like that


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 5:18 am 
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Looking forward to the said electrical springer repeater.... :)

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 6:34 am 
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ya they should make one


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 6:34 am 
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ineedpal wrote:
Ravenairgun wrote:
why dont they make repeater springers? they would probably destroy the pcp market...


There is springer repeater (IZH61). And no it didn't "destroy" the PCP market.

there is a few more than that Gamo had a few ...I think there was a dutch airgun was a electric repeater

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:12 am 
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There is the Barra 400E, a electric bb gun similar to the electric airsoft. Looks really fun. The main issue is the lower fpe which equates into lower fps. Could it be ported into a higher energy model? You could certainly create an electric powered mechanism to cock a heavy spring but you would add alot more bulk and it would likely be slow. Plus you add a lot of complexity and costs.The current design, a manual lever, is the best one. Sleek, simple, and reliable. PCP is going no where anytime in the forseeable future.

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 10:04 am 
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ya i think the best technology they have for airsoft is hpa


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 11:06 am 
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A buddy sent me a video clip when I was away from my desk computer, about a new 20mm rifles, using a combination of helium and compressed air.
They were shooting a bullet over 1,100gr. and getting 1,500fpe.
This is the same fpe as the Zeus .72 cal rifle produces, that uses only compressed air, but - the experimentation goes on - in PCP. That is the only way
to get ACCURATE high velocities & FPE numbers at this stage of the game.

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2023 9:51 am 
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Ravenairgun wrote:
why dont they make repeater springers? they would probably destroy the pcp market...

Where's the windex, I just got coffee all over the screen :lol:

Once your shoulders have failed and been repaired, and failed again and been replaced, you will realize how painless "cocking" a PCP is. I have a rainstorm 2 .357cal and I can keep it under 950 fps with slugs and just over 1000 with pellets. I have a Diana 37 and a BSA springer, and have never used them in years, except to cull pigeons in the barn loft without punching out the steel roof.
I have never had a powder burner or springer with the accuracy and repeatability of the PCP. I also have a Hang Seng compressor, and as the low pressure end is a very common cheap compressor available under all kinds of name, I've had them apart enough. The weakness is the con rod big end that has no bearing to the crank. After break in, I dumped the oil and replaced with Rarus 829 synthetic, and the testing continues after the 3 year mark....


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