Atlas_cn wrote:
Nice try and very impressive result.
That is what I intended to start this discussion. Cheap guns doesn't mean it shoots worse than expensive ones. The built quality may not as good and it may not last as long as those worth $1000, but the performance is totally OK. Remember the firearms wins the contract to army are always cheap and easy to maintenance ones, it will never been a high end $1000 rifle!
Exactly! The Optimus/Phantom can often be tuned to shoot quite well. They don't have a choked barrel but I find that the H&N FTT and JSB Exact pellets shoot great in 4.52mm size. These rifles definitely exceed my expectations.
Although they can shoot well, the Chinese made Optimus/Phantom is far from the build quality of a Weihrauch. With these Crosman B18 variants you get a delicate plastic rear sight, plastic front sight with a thick fibre optic element and no insert feature, plastic trigger guard, plastic breech washers, no stock checkering, mediocre bluing, and a trigger that needs some minor work to feel acceptable. I dump the sights and use a scope so that problem doesn't matter to me. Switching out the plastic breech washers for fitted metal is an easy task and costs less than a dollar. Tuning the trigger with a longer adjustment screw and some moly paste is also easy. The piston, the seals and mainspring are all fine quality. I'm finding that the mainsprings actually last a long time. Same with the breech and piston seals. The stock contours are very nice, IMO. You get a good deal for the price. I've seen the Phantoms sell new for $100-$150 and the Optimus is usually a little bit more.
The B18 variants (Gamo copies) are heavily mass produced and lower quality than the HW, Diana and AA. This means you are more likely to get a defective or blemished rifle. Sometimes you can see the filler they use on the stocks to fix up small holes or blemishes and sometimes the stocks have dark spots. They use a thick finish/stain combination in an attempt to cover the blems. The bluing will scratch and wear easier than a highly polished German model with deep bluing. Sometimes the screws can be a lose fit so loctite is needed. They might not be a pretty rifle but they can often be made to shoot quite well and cost a fraction of the high end rifles.