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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2023 7:44 pm 
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Nice carbon fiber add-ons~ I love carbon fiber stuffs~ [emoji38]ImageImage

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2023 9:01 pm 
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One other detail that I noticed quickly was with the trigger, I found it very squarish. With increased pressure point on the fingertip, which seems to effect accuracy for me. So I removed it from the rifle and took it to the drill press. I threw a tapered grinding stone in the drill press and slowly rolled the shoulders off the triggers face, creating a convex trigger face. Once roughed out with the stone, I then used drum sanders to finish it.

This really aided in a smoother squeeze, and no doubt was worth 30 mins of labour.

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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2023 1:27 pm 
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So just for fun I thought I’d do some pellet testing, to see if this stormrider liked any other pellets.

All groups were 6 shot groups @ 30yds
Geco 8.0gr wadcutters
Crosman destroyer 7.4gr
JSB 8.44gr (4.52) domers
JSB express 7.87gr domers
JSB heavy 10.34gr


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2023 1:29 pm 
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The Red marked holes are the crosman destroyer pellets. This modded Stormrider absolutely hates them. And obviously the 10.34 is the Stormriders preferred pellet.

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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2023 4:00 pm 
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Yep~ so pellet testing is very necessary and interesting to do~

(seems I didn't hear any guns likes that Destroyer pellet before... :) )

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:14 pm 
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We’ll just for fun if thought I push this stormrider and see what it’s capable of at 40yds. My first setup was using the primos tri-pod sticks which didn’t do well with the wind. I found myself moving too much. That group of 15 shots gave me about 1.5” group. So I setup a portable table and just supported the fore end, again not perfect but better then the sticks. The picture is the second group of 15 shots.


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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:29 pm 
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I think that's very good~ forget about the flyers and only need to count that big hole which reflects the ability of what your rifle can do~

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2023 12:45 pm 
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So I had the stormrider apart to add a shim as I’m wanting to get the speed back up to 630fps. So I took a picture of the trigger blade so everyone can see how I have it setup. Before removing it I pulled out my trigger weight gauge. Well it breaks at 1lb.


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2023 8:54 pm 
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Here's my .177 HW97 high power with a variety of pellets. The Crossman Destroyers weren't too bad at 20yards.
Is the Crossman HP the same as the Crossman Destroyer?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:50 am 
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Not really.... ImageImage

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:19 am 
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So after doing a lot of shooting with this Stormrider, I always noticed a heavy click just before the hammer engaged. This sound was coming from the guide spring finding it’s home in the pressure plates. The spring guide would seat in the pocket bored in the pressure plate creating the first click/clunk sound. Reason for this is I have a floating hammer spring when this AG isn’t cocked. So I have now eliminated the misalignment by epoxying the spring guide into the pocket of the pressure plate.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:10 pm 
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After shooting a few hundred pellets with the spring guide epoxied to the backing/pressure plate the action has smoothed out to perfection. Definitely a great mod for those who have a floating hammer spring. No more clunks. Another benefit I find is that adding shims onto the spring guide is quick and easy, no more need to hold multiple little parts, just remove the backing plate and add a shim and reinstall.

One other thing I’ve learned is always place any cut end of the hammer spring into the hammer and not against the spring guide, specially if you have shims. When I put the cut end toward the spring guide with shims installed, I think the cut end was digging into the shims and trying to drag them forward down the spring guide causing unwanted resistance during the shot cycle.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:01 pm 
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Final thoughts:

This is a very simple entry level air rifle with potential. If your one who enjoys tinkering, customizing and loves the mechanical part of airgunning. This rifle is worth a look.

My rating ( Out of the Box)

Fit and Finish. 8/10
Materials. 7.5/10
Action. 8/10
Trigger. 5/10
Stock quality. 8/10
Bang 4 the Buck. 8.5/10

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:19 pm 
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Well after months of tinkering and fine tuning, this rifle is headed in a very positive direction. Once the spring weather comes I’ll push the distance a bit further but for now I have this little gem shooting dimes all day long at 35yds, using JSB 8.44gr. To reduce the spiralling pellet issue I’ve had to increase the output little by little. I find this model loves to be closer to full power then below, at least with the pellet options I have on hand.

At this setup I’m getting 35 shoots per fill. I miss having a larger reservoir for those higher shot counts but honestly I don’t miss hauling around 8-10lb plinker.

I must say, after some mods to the trigger ( mentioned above) this trigger is just pure awesome. 1.5lb with very little creep. I did remove it once again and rolled the inside face and polished it. Now I find my finger slides so much smoother as the trigger slowly changes it angle before breaking the sear. This is the best I can get it and still have a safe rifle and functioning safety mechanism.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:15 pm 
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Other things I’ve done to get this rifle now smashing 3/8” groups @40yds ( spring weather came early). I used some green trimmer cord with three .177 felt cleaning pellets and polished the barrel bore. I used ‘fine’ clover leaf lapping compound, reapplying every 20 pulls threw the barrel. Right now I’ve stopped around 65 passes for now, and I’m super happy with a accuracy. Of course this accuracy comes from using the single shot tray. I also put 15 graphite coated pellets down the pipe before switching back to standard JSB pellets. This graphite spray lube real changed my groups so I’m playing around to see the pros and cons, no cons yet.

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