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What are your thoughts?

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ALL citizens of ANY country should have the right to possess firearms, for their own defense and for the defense of their country,
from tyranny from outside their country and from tyranny within their country.

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Daryl

Yes, agree! That's the right, and you can choose if you really want and keep a gun for yourself or not.

Just no government wants that. Once they rule the country, no matter how they wanted ppl to have guns before, they started to get rid of them from the population...

They were brave to fight for their ppl but at the end they become no more confident about their ppl could keep on supporting them....

Such a funny but sad fact...

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There are many perspectives concerning firearm possession, but unfortunately, most people blend them, making conversations confused, IMO.

There is the property rights perspective and that of the individual's right to possess property so long as others aren't threatened or harmed. One may possess baseball bats or carving knives, subject to threat/harm of others.

There is the self-defence perspective and that of the individual's right to defend self, others, and property. Whether every fight in defence must be "a fair fight" in which the innocent defender must be limited to that of the assailant scarcely needs contemplation, IMO.

The one that concerns me most is that of trust. Do the citizens trust other citizens sufficiently that citizens can be trusted to possess firearms? (Ditto, cars, boats, paving machines, name anything) There appears to have been a subordination of citizen determination of trust to that of government, a mistake, IMO. Where we appear to be at present is that our governments do not trust the best vetted, demonstrably most trustworthy by governments' own measures. If these people cannot be trusted, IMO there are only two possibilities: a) No one in the society can be trusted to possess firearms or any comparable level of responsibility; or b) Governments have judged the society to be untrustworthy with regards to integrity, empathy, or restraint. If that's the case, that society may as well fold up because it's done. It has no basis on which to coexist as a society. It certainly cannot function as a liberal capitalist democracy because that requires the elements of integrity, empathy, or restraint.

Alternatives? Totalitarian serfdom, socialism, communism. Is one of those to be the goal or the result? Regardless, IMO that's the destination in any regard.

If firearms are a significant threat (something under 300 deaths per year), why not address the problem as governments are addressing drug overdose deaths (8,0000 deaths per year)?

Why not legalize firearm possession and give out free firearms and ammunition? If only one of these alternatives sounds crazy to you, please explain why.

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Slavia 618 .177
Webley Senior .22
Jelly SUPER 4.5 mm
Webley Viscount .177
Kral Mega Marine Walnut .22
Artemis PP750 .22
FX Streamline .22 walnut
FX Streamline .22 composite
FX Dynamic 500 .22

Growing acceptance to own firearms? Everyone this day and age has the knowledge to all past history at their fingertips. Has the school system done this lousy of a job or is it the growing passiveness of cavalier attitudes? History will always repeat itself and every living human has been taught this.....I have a very hard time feeling sorry for being "stupid".
There is a price to pay for freedom, the Ukraine has known this for centuries. It is confusing to me to read there are still those not willing to own guns, hide like cowards and expect their neighbors/government to protect them.

Yes, or appeal to authorities to punish those who do defend themselves?

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Slavia 618 .177
Webley Senior .22
Jelly SUPER 4.5 mm
Webley Viscount .177
Kral Mega Marine Walnut .22
Artemis PP750 .22
FX Streamline .22 walnut
FX Streamline .22 composite
FX Dynamic 500 .22

What worries me is hypoteticaly that Russia invad Canada, I'm not convince that Canadian army will be able to defend us. It feel's like having our hands tied in our back...

Imagine a sling shot against an AK...

SilentMan...

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4.5mm
To many and not enough.

6mm
Not enough and to many.

Logistically, something about a snowball and a southern biblical region.

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I have some airguns.

I'm from Russian descent, my great grandparents migrated to the USA and Canada during the coming end of the Czar's reign....My understanding of Russia is, it is nothing more than a pitiful crap-hole. Russia only pics fights it knows can win. Every Countries government can be over thrown at anytime if the people choose to do so. Fact is, which REGIME will rule next is the question?

Is the coming of the New World Order going to be the land of the milk and honey?

Was it Jefferson? "You can have freedom or you can have security, but you cannot have both".
or was it: "Those who give up freedom for security, will have neither".

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Daryl

Firearm rights, should be included in human rights globally. We’ve all seen what happens to ‘gun free zones’ and ‘firearm restricted/band countries’.

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Every one should know that our Human Civilization is infinitely complex, and so delicate.

It’s about Time. Time will tell.

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Stephen
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Even in US, when people are asked why to keep and bear arms, hunting and recreation are the usual answers. Wrong answer. It is to keep the government (servant) from becoming tyrannt (master).

You think any government, elected or not, likes that? With such answers from the people, you think the government will fail to take the arms from the owners? They just take the time to castrate the lion, one ball at a time.

-TL

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Disarming the public is EXACTLY the reason why true Socialist/Communist countries do not allow their general population firearms ownership. eg. North Korea, China.
In Russia, firearms ownership is allowed and has been for over 20 years, I think since the wall came down & they entered a free market system.
Disarming the public is EXACTLY why countries with governments striving for complete control of their populations conflate gun control as stopping crime. Make firearms control an emotional target and you get the women's votes(& some stupid men). Women comprise close to double men in population. Too bad they got the vote.
I still think 1 vote per land owning family is the way to go. That would eliminate a lot of the socialist votes from big cities. imho

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Daryl

I do support all people having the right to own firearms, unless they prove why they shouldn't, like they have a history of violent crime, or are literally sociopaths, and psychopaths, are intellectually or developmentally disabled to the point they don't full understand what a firearm is or how to properly use such a tool, etc.

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