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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:48 pm 
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Saskatchewan Aims to Join Court Appeal to Stop Liberal Gun Confiscations
5 Feb 2024
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Developing story. We’re adding details and context.

TheGunBlog.ca — Saskatchewan said today it’s applying to join the Federal Court of Appeal case against the Liberal Party of Canada’s mass gun confiscations targeting honest citizens.

It’s the first province to publicly support the appeal by four groups of firearm users arguing the crackdown is unjustified, unlawful, and unconstitutional.
The appeal aims to nullify the Liberal attack order of 01 May 2020 that criminalized hundreds of thousands of government-licensed gun owners and ordered them to surrender their property.
It follows a Federal Court loss in October.

Administrative and Constitutional Grounds

”We believe in the merits of this case on administrative and constitutional grounds,” Saskatchewan Justice Minister and Attorney General Bronwyn Eyre said in a statement.
Alberta Expected to Join Appeal
https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/ ... rearms-ban
Alberta backed the initial court cases and may apply to join the appeal.
( "The federal ban already includes up to 1,800 'variants,' will cost billions of dollars, and directly conflicts with sections of the Criminal Code which state that firearms that can reasonably be used for hunting or sporting purposes cannot be banned.”
Alberta and Saskatchewan both passed laws to block the federal confiscation effort.
Ontario, Manitoba, Yukon, Northwest Territories, and other provinces also oppose — or at least don’t support — the Liberal attacks.
It’s unfortunate that other provinces won’t stand up for their citizens and for fundamental principles of justice."

Generoux: First Time for Self-Rep?

“This is super exciting for me,” said Christine Generoux, who is representing herself and two others in the appeal. “This may be the first time in history that a self-rep has been joined by two provincial attorneys general.”

The four appeals are consolidated under Federal Court of Appeal file A-327-23, led by the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights (CCFR).
‘Saskatchewan Is Firm in Its Opposition’

“Saskatchewan is firm in its opposition to the federal firearms ban, which unfairly targets law-abiding firearms owners and will have little impact on firearms-related crime,” Corrections, Policing and Public Safety Minister Paul Merriman said in the statement. “We believe in taking tangible action, such as the measures included in The Saskatchewan Firearms Act and our ongoing investment in the Saskatchewan Firearms Office, to increase responsible firearms safety in our province.”
Ontario Won’t Divert Police to Attacks, NFA Says

Separately, Canada’s National Firearms Association said today, citing Ontario’s Solicitor General, that the country’s largest province is “unwilling to divert provincial resources” to the Liberal confiscation effort.
Related

Federal Court Upholds May 2020 Liberal Attacks Against Gun Users
Five Points Gun Owners Get Wrong About the Liberal+RCMP Attacks
Liberal Gun Bans

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:57 pm 
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From my research, the only groups using the term "Confiscation" are:

Our Commons.ca
NRA-ILA
Fraser Institute
National Post
Canadian Coalition For Firearms Rights
The Gun Blog
I'm sure there are others?

Here is the updated info. 2024-01-18 From Public Safety Canada
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntr ... 21-en.aspx

Here is the updated info. 2023-11-14 From The Royal Canadian Mounted Police
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntr ... 21-en.aspx

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If you wish to surrender your firearm without compensation, please do not bring it to a local police detachment. Instead, call the non-emergency police line for your local detachment and you will be given instructions on how to safely surrender your firearm. In the meantime, you may not use your prohibited firearm, and you must and continue to keep it securely stored.


In my opinion the Government will be issuing more prohibited licenses? They want to reduce gun ownership but by looking at the stats, there are THOUSANDS of new gun owners across Canada daily! :wink:

No one is coming for our guns.......There will be more than enough stupid folks that will hand them over for a few bucks (with tax payer money) then cry their taxes keep going up. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:31 pm 
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The government will not be handing out more prohib. licenses. That would mean those with them, would be able to use those guns, just as is current with the prohibited handguns.

I think there have been very few "handed in" in Canada, it seems. This is just as happened in New Zealand - where there was no compensation or might have been, I don't know. Their government was very upset so few guns had been handed it, read 5% to 10%. There was a VERY short amnesty period in which guns could be handed in as well. The Gvt. thought there would be a rush - nope - didn't happen.
This prohibition all came about via. the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern's law prohibiting all semi-auto rifles, after the left wing idiot who shot up the Muslim Temple killing many people. The perp's written manifesto, which the government made illegal to see, got out anyway & was distributed. In this, he personally called down Trump along with all Capitalist governments.
Arden and the "rest" tried to blame it on Conservatives. LOL Once the manifesto got out, this was shown to be a bald-faced government lie. Typical.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:49 pm 
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If anything, history has taught us is to never hand over our guns....The lies are all around us including those that seem to be on our side collecting donations "fighting for us"? Alberta was hiring their own Chief Firearms Officer to make us think we don't answer to the feds?
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Firearms in Canada are regulated by the federal Firearms Act and Part III of the Criminal Code.
The Government of Alberta administers the Canadian Firearms Program in the province, while the federal government is responsible for creating firearms legislation and regulations in Canada.


Trudeau is on the chopping block these days and the opposition Party the Honourable Pierre Polievre puts on an "academy award performance". It is all so obvious to me that all this is "staged". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg9tM9EwE2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iqhbQ4NuKI

Our whole system is a joke and we sit helplessly thinking somehow we're going to vote the "right man" to do the job. We give our hard earned cash supporting feeble gun lobby groups. I believe 2024 will be the show of shows come election time south of the border......Will there even be an election?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:53 pm 
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You can always vote for one of the socialist parties, as there are now 3 of them, if you include Greens & lose ALL your firearms sooner, or
there might be an alternative to keep THOSE people at bay for 4 years longer. IT is going to happen, sooner or later.
Have you read Agenda 21 or Agenda 20/30 yet? They are on the UN's web site. THAT is where we ultimately will land - just when, is another matter.
Penticton B.C. town council has already started laying out the no-post fences for conversion to their 15 minute city.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:19 pm 
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Here's CSSA's write up on the Ontario Solititor Gen. statements, along with references.


COMMENTARY


Ontario To Feds:
“We Won’t Fund Your Gun Confiscation Scheme”


Yesterday, the Ontario Solicitor General’s Office confirmed – in writing – the Ontario government will not pay for Justin Trudeau’s firearm confiscation scheme.


“Ontario recognizes that targeting Canada’s licensed firearms owners will not stop gun and gang violence. More than 90% of guns used in crimes are illegally imported into Ontario from the United States,” wrote Chelsea McGee, Director of Communications for the Honourable Michael Kerzner, Solicitor General of Ontario, in an exclusive email to the CSSA.


“At a time when crime is on the rise, Ontario’s police resources can’t be diverted to criminalize farmers and hunters. Punishing law-abiding citizens will not reduce crime while illegal firearms continue to be smuggled into Canada,” McGee continued.


“If the federal government wants to take serious action on gun crime, they need to spend the resources on securing the border.”


One day later, Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Public Safety, “announced a federal investment of $28 million over three years to strengthen the Canada Border Services Agency.”[i]


Compared to the billions Minister LeBlanc will waste on confiscating over 2,000 makes and models of firearms owned by licensed firearms owners, $9.3 million per year for CBSA sounds more like a coffee run to Tim Hortons than a serious effort to defend our borders.


Adding to the flames is Toronto Police Chief Myron Demkiw, who is incensed at the City of Toronto’s proposal to cut the Toronto Police Service’s budget.


“Any reduction to our modest and below-the-rate inflation ask of 1.7 per cent will present an unacceptable risk to our ability to provide the adequate and effective police services that are required by legislation,” said Chief Demkiw.[ii]


“A $12.6 million cut will create unacceptable risks and imperil the Service’s ability to ensure public safety, to offer community policing and to proactively patrol the city.”


Trudeau underestimated the determination of Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba, New Brunswick and the Yukon to defend licensed firearms owners in their provinces.


With Ontario now refusing to play ball, the Liberal government’s gun confiscation scheme seems destined for more treacherous waters than those that sunk the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Ontario’s refusal to pay for Justin Trudeau’s virtue-signalling scheme comes just days after Saskatchewan’s Attorney General announced that the province has applied to “intervene in legal challenges to the federal firearms ban currently before the Federal Court of Appeal.”[iii]


"We believe in the merits of this case on administrative and constitutional grounds," Justice Minister and Attorney General Bronwyn Eyre announced at a Saskatoon Wildlife Federation dinner on Friday.


"The federal ban already includes up to 1,800 'variants,' will cost billions of dollars, and directly conflicts with sections of the Criminal Code which state that firearms that can reasonably be used for hunting or sporting purposes cannot be banned.”


“Saskatchewan is firm in its opposition to the federal firearms ban, which unfairly targets law-abiding firearms owners and will have little impact on firearms-related crime,” said Paul Merriman, Minister of Corrections, Policing and Public Safety.



“We believe in taking tangible action, such as the measures included in The Saskatchewan Firearms Act and our ongoing investment in the Saskatchewan Firearms Office, to increase responsible firearms safety in our province.”


Justin Trudeau’s government is on the wrong side of this issue. That’s not news.



That Canada’s largest province refuses to support Trudeau’s harebrained scheme to harass licensed firearms owners most definitely is.


Justin Trudeau, five provinces and one territory have called your bluff.


Will you fold, or will you stick with your losing hand - all the way to the next election?

Sources:

[i] https://www.canada.ca/en/border-service ... icles.html

[ii] https://www.tps.ca/media-centre/stories ... ed-budget/

[iii] https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/ ... rearms-ban
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With Ontario now refusing to pay for Trudeau's gun confiscation scheme, is it doomed?
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If Pierre Poilievre sticks to his promises, would you support him in the next federal election?


Yes: 94.3%

No: 2.1%

Not sure yet: 3.5%

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:55 pm 
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Bickering and dickering about myriad manufactured issues benefits corrupt politicians. And dicing between established parties may only be beneficial in the short term.

What we really need to address is corruption, at all levels; but most importantly in government. Rampant corruption in government is death.

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