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Author:  987654321 [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

I've been chasing flyers for the last week. Shooting rested, scoped, with a shoulder stock at 10 yards, my groups were around 1.5" I was sure my barrel was f$cked. Turns out I'm just a lousy shot.

Two tins of pellets later, I finally got my trigger finger in the right spot (closer to the tip) and really concentrated on pulling straight back. It'll now clover-leaf at the same 10 yards with CPHP.

The old adage of "it's usually the shooter" holds true. I'd gotten spoiled shooting my QB78, I forgot how tricky a small little gun can be to keep on target.

Author:  wesb2007 [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

Glad it's getting better =).
You've probably tried other pellets already, but I found air arms/jsb to work well, especially the 16g/15.89gr. (Also cleaning the barrel of the anti rust gunk they stick in for shipping)

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Author:  987654321 [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

JSB 18.13's are almost one hole, it's the only other pellet I've tried. It's flinging them around 415 fps and surprisingly quiet.

Something like 85 shots a fill. Aside from the creep, I've managed to get a pretty flat spread across the fill. Regulator is about as low as it will go (any lower and it seals and leaves the valve empty). I find the trigger is much better with less hammer spring.

Author:  Daryl [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

If were you, I'd most certainly try the JSB's, but also the Crossmans in Piranha & Hp's at 14.43gr.
Once you get used to it AND the barrel clean, it will continue to tighten up.
These were the first targets shot with my PP700 in .22 cal. The Crossman 14.43gr.
HP's showed to be about the most accurate in this pistol.

Top 5-Target picture: all shooting at 10 meters at the indoor range, resting
the air chamber on a bag.
Top left are the first 3, 3-shot groups with sight corrections.
The middle top target as 2, 5 shot groups with 16gr. Predators, which shot quite well.
The right top target has 2, 5-shot groups with the 21.30 grain Barracuda Match were fair,
but not as good as the Predators nor the Crossman el-cheapo pellets in the 500 tin.
The bottom left left group is 15 shots with the 21.30gr. Barracuda Match.

The bottom group of targets is the same ones with Crossman HP pellets sitting in the groups on
the left top target, with a dime in the centre for size comp.
The other targets, have dimes over the groups as well as a 21.30gr. match pellet in the bottom
group, centre top target, all are 5-shot groups except for the bottom left, which is 15
shots with the H&H Match pellets.

With a PC, holding the Ctrl button down and pressing the + key will enlarge the pictures. Holding the
Crtl button down and pressing the zero (0) key will return the page to it's normal size.

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Author:  Daryl [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

987654321 wrote:
I've been chasing flyers for the last week. Shooting rested, scoped, with a shoulder stock at 10 yards, my groups were around 1.5" I was sure my barrel was f$cked. Turns out I'm just a lousy shot.

Two tins of pellets later, I finally got my trigger finger in the right spot (closer to the tip) and really concentrated on pulling straight back. It'll now clover-leaf at the same 10 yards with CPHP.

The old adage of "it's usually the shooter" holds true. I'd gotten spoiled shooting my QB78, I forgot how tricky a small little gun can be to keep on target.


Another very important lesson in handgun shooting, is to use only the tip (1/2") of the trigger finger on the trigger, not the joint, which is a common fault. As you found, concentrate on duplicating
your hold, shot to shot, and squeezing the trigger straight back - concentrate hard on the front sight.

Author:  wesb2007 [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

Thanks for the "tip" tip! =)

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Author:  987654321 [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

Just an update... The Crossman piranhas seem to shoot the tightest at 10 yards. Wasn't expecting that. Thanks for the suggestion.

Author:  Daryl [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

Glad you found a cheap accurate pellet.
My PP700 prefers the HP's, with the Piranha's
coming in with the next batch of accurate, but
more expensive pellets. I figured they should be
identical, but do not shoot the same.

Author:  leadslinger [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

I can't wait to get a scope. I got a reddot on mine, and my astigism makes it look like a star. So not the most precise.

7 shot in 1/2 inch. But 3 fliers so like and inch. Last 10 shot group was a vertical string. That was 3/4" with one flier making it a inch. Haven't got it out to 10 or 20m yet. Just 25ft.

Author:  wesb2007 [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

Scope made a big difference for me, but I guess it depends on your eyes how much difference it makes.

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Author:  Daryl [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

I also have astigmatism that is corrected with my long distance, computer and reading glasses. If I look over my glasses, the red dot is an angled slant, through the distance lens and the red dot is round.
I cut the power on the dot back to where it's visible, but not glaring. If too bright, it's very large, with indistinct edges, like a rotating star.

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Author:  leadslinger [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:28 am ]
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Daryl wrote:
I also have astigmatism that is corrected with my long distance, computer and reading glasses. If I look over my glasses, the red dot is an angled slant, through the distance lens and the red dot is round.
I cut the power on the dot back to where it's visible, but not glaring. If too bright, it's very large, with indistinct edges, like a rotating star.


My glasses doesn't fix it, Still shows up as a star. I only use dots on the lowest setting. Then again I shoot at B27 or IPSC target mostly ( Bigger bulls ) So it's not like I'm trying to put the bullet in the same hole. I don't focus on it too much. Just superimpose the dot over and fire.

Author:  Daryl [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

The scope will help.
Silly me. I just discovered that by clicking on the pictures, they enlarge up to 2 times for 2 clicks.
This is the same feature as the imrg upload system over on http://www.americanlongrifles.org/forum .

Author:  leadslinger [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

Daryl wrote:
The scope will help.
Silly me. I just discovered that by clicking on the pictures, they enlarge up to 2 times for 2 clicks.
This is the same feature as the imrg upload system over on http://www.americanlongrifles.org/forum .


Yeah noticed the pistol scope on the P17, made a word of difference. The little 3-9 that I got, should be sweet in carbine mode..

Author:  987654321 [ Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Finally some accuracy from my new pp700...

Got to stretch the range out to 26 yards. First group was one ragged hole with JSB 18.1's at 430fps.

This was rested, with the stock, and a 3-9x scope.

Not much for pesting, but I've got a few rats under the shed that need to be taken care of.

I'd love to mount a small bipod to the air tube, not sure what my options are.

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