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I am shooting in my gunclub only, mostly the 22LR lanes are less crowded and that is a best spot you can catch me 2-3 times a week.
The summer was kind of OK not really difficult windy but what is coming the winter wind.
I was researching for windflags in the past, mostly US made and most of them don't ship across the border. So I 3d print couple vanes and I can attach on top my WeatherMeters. But that works on short distances only, the BT cuts off about 30 M. I would like to place at least 3-4 flags between 20-100.
What options you can help me out?

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FX Impact MK2 PP - heavy modded
Edgun Leshiy2 - heavy modded
and a lot of scopes with great optics

I use orange flagging tape, on 3/16" drill rod - pointy ended. Any tape, even masking tape prevents it from sliding down.(that is, when I remember to pack them)

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Best Wishes
Daryl

I have couple orange snow dryway marker rods, but exactly at that my shooting lane the soil is hardpack cannot push them in.
After posting last night I dig out from my basement lockers two medium size tripods (my boys guitar stands) now I just have to figure how to employ these.

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FX Impact MK2 PP - heavy modded
Edgun Leshiy2 - heavy modded
and a lot of scopes with great optics

We used to use fiberglass electric fence posts with survey ribbon but they are bulky and difficult to shove into the ground at the range.

We changed to wooden meat skewers with survey ribbon pinned to the top, placed into the top of the range's target stands, or into target stands.

The problem with the survey tape, especially in short (6 inch) lengths, is that it is too still and or tangles around the skewer.

We are replacing the tape with coloured wool string because it has fewer problems.

I'm following the thread in hopes that there is a better/simpler solution.

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Not sure if this is what your looking for but These are on sale at Peavey mart.

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“If women don’t find you handsome ,they should at least find you handy” -Red Green

I 3d printed this wind "indicator" exactly one year ago and left it outside for the entire winter (removed the meter of course). The material exceeded my expectations.
My problem is that I never had any in my hands to see where is a trick...this one spins or moves way too fast, and yes there is a ball bearing inside.
I am missing a trick with a tail to slow the motion.

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FX Impact MK2 PP - heavy modded
Edgun Leshiy2 - heavy modded
and a lot of scopes with great optics

Today planning my game with Strelok Pro + WeatherMeter in my backyard ... I see there is lot to learn.

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FX Impact MK2 PP - heavy modded
Edgun Leshiy2 - heavy modded
and a lot of scopes with great optics

I've heard that some precision shooters consider wind near the firing point, as being the most important wind, as a tiny shift of the projectile is magnified over the distance to the target.
Oft times here, we will have 5 different winds between the shooting line and the 100 meter target stands. It's "tough" to read. Practice in it with a VERY accurate rifle sure helps.
With such variable wind, it is tough to shoot in the same conditions, each shot.
When sighting in my gopher rifles and testing loads, I would run a minimum of 3 flags, to a maximum of 6. Also strange on our range, from 100 meters to 200 meters, the wind seemingly has no effect on the projectile's flight, only the first 100 meters seems to matter. The 100foot high bush is quite close to the "berm'd" range at that location and that might be what shelters it so well.
The first 100 meters has no bush, but wide open space, over the 15' high side berm, so a lot of swirling winds happen.

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Best Wishes
Daryl

Nothing fancy... but it works (for me)

Good set-up sillymike.

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Best Wishes
Daryl

I made some bigger surface wings from ReadiBoards (cost peanuts in dollar store) foam board,



but what I have paint cans currently in my garage all of them eat up the foam core. Posting just let you know don't go that way.
So far what I 3d printed (+ some scrap material and small bearings I had laying around) working pretty good, just needs bigger wings.




Doing now a new design, I want to run the resin printer over the weekend to make some new parts for testing.
I am shooting the airguns only in my club, I need these wind indicators portable and mobile as much possible. The ranges are all hard pack or gravel, that orange pole from the picture I would not be able to push in the ground, need stands or small tripods (which I have two just surfaced from my basement lockers

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FX Impact MK2 PP - heavy modded
Edgun Leshiy2 - heavy modded
and a lot of scopes with great optics

OK, I am ready to show my project finally.

I made several size and shapes, and so far this is a combination what I like the most.
The red painted fin is 31 gram and the black corrugated plastic is 11 gram, all the other parts identical weight. The lighter (black for now) fin moves very active to slightest air changes, I think I like the heavier painted more. On the floor there is a dual fin, way too heavy, I have no weight for it to counter-balance, but seem to me the most accurate.





Also below, the left meter (the blue, still in the original box) is up for trade.
I got that blue first, but that unit need a compass in the phone. But at my BR shooting range I am not using a phone screen, I am using my Samsung tablet (for radar and Strelok) and this tablet doesn't have an internal compass.
I had to order again, the brown brown meter (right side) which has an integrated magneto-meter.

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FX Impact MK2 PP - heavy modded
Edgun Leshiy2 - heavy modded
and a lot of scopes with great optics

I shot a lot of DCRA (Bisley style) shooting at 300-1000 yards. Iron sights, Military hardball 7.62 NATO, and custom rifles shot prone. No computers or electronics. Pencil and paper allowed.
We used wind flags every 100 yards. The range we shot at had Mt. McKay in Thunder Bay as the backstop. The problem was, the wind came down the mountain and swirled around when it hit the range. Wind flags would often point in opposite directions, some limp, some showing hard wind. One competitor at a match we hosted (He had shot at Bisley in 1954, the year I was born) looked at the wind flags and said "What's wrong with your wind flags?"
If you want to learn about how wind affects your impact point, read up on Bisley shooting.
The guys who win the Bisley matches know how to dope the wind. I remember being coached by the gentleman mentioned above. He would say "Three minutes left. Shoot now." If I didn't get the clicks dialed in in time, He'd say, "Stop. One minute Right from zero now. Shoot as soon as possible." He could read the wind like a book.
If you understand geometry and vectors, the closer to the firing point the wind acts on the bullet, the greater the downrange effects. If the wind flags show high winds at the target and little wind throughout the range, little to no compensation is necessary. The opposite, when the wind is calm at the target, but is strong at the firing point, the impact will be affected significantly at the firing point. At 500 yards and farther, we basically ignored the wind flags at the target area.
I find airgun shooting is very similar but on a much smaller scale.
10 yards with an airgun is like 100 yards with 7.62NATO. Wind has very little affect.
30 yards is like 300 yards. Wind has an affect, but minimal.
50 yards is like 500 yards. Wind has a definite affect.
70 yards is like 700 yards. Only shooters who can dope the wind will do well. Easy to miss the target frame altogether.
100 yards is like 1000 yards. Requires Zen-like wind doping skill.

I still have one of my DCRA rifles I built. It's a Parker-Hale match grade heavy barrel fitted to a Savage (Canadian) made Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk1 action. I use a scope now (not allowed in DCRA) since I can't see the micrometer sights well enough any more. The old timers would pull out the Lee Enfield actions for the longer ranges since it was believed that the springy back-locking action would flex a little with a "hot" load reducing the velocity of that round to closer to the average. I just shoot cast bullets in it now. We found the Canadian made IVI (valcartier) ammo had a large dispersion. Some of the European made hardball was much more accurate. Matches started with up to 5 sighters to allow zeroing your rifle for whatever ammo was used that match. Handloads were not allowed. Everyone using the same ammo tended to level the playing field. A well tuned rifle would shoot most hardball into one minute of angle or less. Shooter skill won matches rather than exotic equipment. Some guys had some pretty exotic equipment. It didn't seem to make a difference. One of my friends used a stock Ruger 77V in .308. He did well. I made a rifle for a guy with a Schultz and Larsen Match grade heavy barrel fitted to a VZ24 98 Mauser action. He used it to win the grand aggregate prize at Connaught range in Ottawa. (35 years ago!)

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13 springers and a few pumpers and pistols.
2 lathes and lots of scrap metal.

Too soon old too late smart.