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Author: | blarg [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Torch bluing |
Isn't this case hardening rather then bluing? That is, not a magnetite coating, but a carbon coating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluing_%28steel%29 |
Author: | Jon [ Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Torch bluing |
There a various methods in the proper word 'Browning' often call blacking or blueing, same thing. Generally these days theres only hot and cold blacking, used to do both. Cold blacking is for quality guns at sub 150 degrees else the barrels will come apart! In a hot blacking process its the mix and or temp that's wrong if it comes out brown, likewise could come out green. Back to the OP you need a very controlled heat, 2 degrees either way its a different colour and of course heat rises. You have gone through the colour spectrum there probably 20 degrees too much at 300 degrees. The key is an even heat displacement and takes some doing. ie 22 years ago my Diana 52 barrel sleeve and silencer (ok I am a Brit) took no less than 9 attempts on one and 11 on the other part to get presentable with a blow torch. Each time polished off the carbon. Done several and not worth the effort involved plus it alters the metallurgy of the steel. |
Author: | rrdstarr [ Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Torch bluing |
When I gunsmithed I did it with bluing salts, only once in school did I rust blue and old Parker side-by-side shotgun that was soldered together. Made me very nervous!!! |
Author: | EverHopeful [ Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Torch bluing |
I looked up rust bluing - that sure looks like a labour of love, repeating the process over and over again. That looks like a good result with the torch bluing Joe - must be pretty intimidating plunging the hot metal into oil Jim |
Author: | joe hickey [ Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Torch bluing |
Not really. The residual oil in the piece, barely catches fire only when the torch touches it. Duunking in warm oil doesn, t even produce smoke. If it were red hot, I would be wary. |
Author: | Daryl [ Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Torch bluing |
The process Joe used seems to me, is also called charcoal bluing. Done correctly, the finish is beautifully deep, shiny blue - not black or blackish - fire-blue, like a brand-spanking new 1851 Navy Colt. Unfortunately, this finish, while quite beautiful, is not very wear resistant, just like fire-blued screw heads. Joe's finish's colour looks very similar to rust blue - in the pictures. Perhaps that is due to the oil bath? Al is correct in that rust blueing is the ORIGINAL blueing of the 18th and 19th century. Caustic salts blueing as used today by those gun smith's who blue rifle parts to get the typical black finish (called bluing), is totally modern - well, post 1900 I'm sure. |
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