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 Post subject: scope "Vignette"
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:33 pm 
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I am having trouble with stability on my FT pistol with the 2x scope. The eye relief is long and I therefore have trouble getting a stable platform using my knees and arm. When I get it stable there is the dark area around the circumference of the eyepiece. I've moved the scope out as far as is possible, my question is does it affect accuracy or is it strictly an issue with the amount of light exiting the eye piece.

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:39 pm 
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I had trouble with a pistol scope and long eye relief too. Ended up shooting the last 2 FT matches iron sights and finally bought the Bushnell red dot...excellent scope.

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:56 pm 
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I hear ya but I've got the scope ( I've blown my budget on my FT rifle set up)and the majority of pistol shooters are using nonmagnification sights so I figured I might and I repeat might have a better chance!!!

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:19 pm 
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I have a heavy pistol and the scope will only make it worse, if shooting 10m single handed.
The first few shots are fine but your arm gets tired, loosing accuracy.
So I shoot open sights...it hope I get better eventually.

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:37 pm 
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Hey Canshooter ,
Which Bushnell red dot are you using and what rings/mounts did you use ?
Does it have the 3 mil dot ?

Thanks in advance ,
Warren

ps . sorry to hijack your thread Alaus24


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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:36 am 
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alaus24 wrote:
When I get it stable there is the dark area around the circumference of the eyepiece...does it affect accuracy or is it strictly an issue with the amount of light exiting the eye piece.

This may be a dumb question but, are you sure it's a long eye relief pistol scope? If it is, they are meant to be held at arms length for a full field of view. If you still experience the tunnel effect, make certain your image is centred everytime or you'll get significant parallax errors (crummy accuracy)

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
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wikipedia called it "vignette", tunnel is more descriptive. The problem is when I sit in the shooting position for FT. The minimum eye relief on the scope is around 13 inches and when in shooting position my eye relief is around 10 inches so I get that black ring. I would probably be ok if I used the lying on your back shooting position but I'm a thousand sit-ups short of that! :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
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That lying down position is called the Creedmore. It's actually pretty stable and requires minimal abdominal exertion...otherwise I'd never be able to use it! :rolleyes: Another option is to mount a proper low magnification rifle scope and work on a position that gets your eye a little closer to the scope.

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
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I read the word wrong the first time and thought it was the "Creemore" position and got myself confused thinking how can I shoot while sitting at the bar!!!! :drinkers:

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
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alaus24 wrote:
...how can I shoot while sitting at the bar!!!! :drinkers:

I'm sure a few shots at the bar are in your past... :lol:

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This is for Warren. The rings came with the scope and the mount came from Airguns of Arizona

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Hope this helps!

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:07 pm 
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Canshooter,
Thanks for the photo .
I have a half a dozen different reddots , Tasco, NCStar and Redhead . I like the clarity of the Tasco dot , but it is too big at 5mil . The NCStar and Redhead scopes are not as well built but I prefer the 3mil dot . I mostly use my pistols to shootas Gamo rocker trap at 15-20 yards .
I wonder if the bushnel would fit into a set of dovetail rings (either 1" or 30mm) ?

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 Post subject: Re: scope "Vignette"
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Sorry , I just realized I used the term "mil" instead of "M.O.A." when discribing the size of the dots in the scopes . :roll:

OPPS, :oops:
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