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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:13 pm 
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Hope's gun oil is not good at all, it will destroy your seals.


Last I checked, there are no seals inside the barrel.

Depends on the barrel and there a seal around every break barrel... well barrel.
If it's convenient just getting the o-ring out of the way before cleaning could do it?


Don't worry about the breach seal. If you do get some on it by accident, wipe it off and spray it with silicone oil.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:14 pm 
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Has anyone tried rem oil to clean the barrel?


It is an oil, not a cleaner. I use it to prevent rust in all my guns. Works great.


I understand what you mean, however the can does state:

"Proven superior for cleaning, lubricating and corrosion protecting fine firearms."

Although I do see how a "cleaner" would be preferred as it is formulated specifically for that purpose.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:23 pm 
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I use 20 lb mono fishing line, no way you can damage your barrel this way.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Here's the way I see it... YMMV

If you lose accuracy, chances are the lands and grooves are filling with lead, affecting the spin on the projectile. Using anything but a cleaner will only wipe the graphite (that they use as a lubricant on most pellets) out of the barrel and still leave the lead build-up. Using a good barrel cleaner will dissolve the lead and you will be able to wipe it out of the barrel restoring the land and grooves back to the way they should be. I don't clean my pellet gun barrels near as much as I oil them, but when I feel the need to clean the barrel, I use Hoppes no.9.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:25 pm 
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I use 20 lb mono fishing line, no way you can damage your barrel this way.


Good choice.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:57 pm 
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Hoppes no.9 you say? I may have to pick some up, thanks for the info.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:06 pm 
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Here's the way I see it... YMMV

If you lose accuracy, chances are the lands and grooves are filling with lead, affecting the spin on the projectile. Using anything but a cleaner will only wipe the graphite (that they use as a lubricant on most pellets) out of the barrel and still leave the lead build-up. Using a good barrel cleaner will dissolve the lead and you will be able to wipe it out of the barrel restoring the land and grooves back to the way they should be. I don't clean my pellet gun barrels near as much as I oil them, but when I feel the need to clean the barrel, I use Hoppes no.9.

Why not use a simple brush?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:09 pm 
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You shouldn't use a brush on an airguns bore.


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You shouldn't use a brush on an airguns bore.

Why not? Bronze is softer than a steel barrel, it shouldn't damage it? If in doubt one could use a nylon one.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:16 pm 
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The bronze brushes are not recommended and the nylon won't remove the leading.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:58 pm 
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The bronze brushes are not recommended

Since when? Some airguns even come with the brass brush (the Alecto and S&W 586 come to mind) not to mention the numerous sources recomending it.
I'm not saying it's not true but it's the first time I hear that.

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It's not actually the bronze brush that's the biggest problem, it's the steel rod you need to use. Especially on guns you need to clean from the muzzle end. Best to avoid them all together. I hardly use a cleaning rod on my powderburners anymore. Boresnakes are the way to go.


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So if I don't lose accuracy, why should I clean, even after several 100 shots?
And why should I even oil, if I fire pellets trough barrel regularly, rust cannot build up ?
Doc says Olympic shooters don't clean, why should I? All my guns are sub 500 fps

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So if I don't lose accuracy, why should I clean, even after several 100 shots?You shouldn't
And why should I even oil, if I fire pellets trough barrel regularly, rust cannot build up ? If you're shooting it regularly, you don't need to. After you clean it or if it is going to be stored for a long period of time only.
Doc says Olympic shooters don't clean, why should I? All my guns are sub 500 fps

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Maybe 10 minutes ago, I was reading the current issue of "Shooting Times" and noticed a letter from a guy whose .22 riffle had lost accuracy after only 3000 rounds.

ST's long time gunsmith Reid Coffield answered. He told him that he doubted there was anything wrong with the barrel. He advised him to clean the bore with a bronze bore brush and a lead solvent.

That surprised me a bit as I have read Coffield for a long time and know he knows what he is doing. I am no longer going to worry about using a bronze brush. I still will not use it for regular cleaning but will use it when indicated and not worry about it.


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