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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:36 am 
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I don't either, but that is what the email said, I can forward a copy if you like.

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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:28 pm 
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Can't understand why they would recommend pellgunoil when the bottle is filled with mineral oil according to the owners manual.


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I don't either, but that is what the email said, I can forward a copy if you like.


Apparently, because Pellgunoil is formulated for two types of airguns: CO2 and multipump pneumatics. The Alecto (which is in essence a Turkish Zoraki hp-01 rebranded by Webley) is a multipump pneumatic the same as the 1377, 1322 etc. So, Pellgunoil is perfect for it. And it works splendidly!


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:20 pm 
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Formulated my buttock. It's motor oil.


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
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Didnt somebody email the company before and find out it was sewing machine oil?


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:34 pm 
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Didnt somebody email the company before and find out it was sewing machine oil?


Does it really matter what is the chemical composition of Pellgunoil? The MSDS for Pellgunoil on Crosman's site says it is "Monolec GFS SAE 30 Engine Oil." However, the MSDS does not list the ingredients. But who cares? This is completely UNIMPORTANT. What is important is that Pellgunoil WORKS! See below how Stephen Archer (and he really knows airguns!) responds to exactly this kind of question:

Anonymous, Wednesday, 15 February, 2012
if it was simply "sae 30 motor oil", so why to buy pellgun oil? it is cheaper the motor oil, isn't it?
Stephen Archer, Monday, 20 February, 2012
I certainly don't know what's in PellGun Oil, but I know it works. And although I'm using it every day on QB78 family air rifles we test, a tube last a really, really long time - like months. For that reason, I see the cost of as being really quite low and I'm personally not going to try something else that could be cheaper but that MIGHT not work so well.

Very wise response. Don’t bother with ingredients. Just use it!


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Didnt somebody email the company before and find out it was sewing machine oil?


Does it really matter what is the chemical composition of Pellgunoil? The MSDS for Pellgunoil on Crosman's site says it is "Monolec GFS SAE 30 Engine Oil." However, the MSDS does not list the ingredients. But who cares? This is completely UNIMPORTANT. What is important is that Pellgunoil WORKS! See below how Stephen Archer (and he really knows airguns!) responds to exactly this kind of question:

Anonymous, Wednesday, 15 February, 2012
if it was simply "sae 30 motor oil", so why to buy pellgun oil? it is cheaper the motor oil, isn't it?
Stephen Archer, Monday, 20 February, 2012
I certainly don't know what's in PellGun Oil, but I know it works. And although I'm using it every day on QB78 family air rifles we test, a tube last a really, really long time - like months. For that reason, I see the cost of as being really quite low and I'm personally not going to try something else that could be cheaper but that MIGHT not work so well.

Very wise response. Don’t bother with ingredients. Just use it!


I meant the oil that originally comes with the Alecto, sorry for being unclear. IIRC somebody emailed them to ask what kind of oil was in the bottle since they spilled it and wanted to know what to use. They were told it was sewing machine/light machine oil.


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
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averagejoe wrote:
I meant the oil that originally comes with the Alecto, sorry for being unclear. IIRC somebody emailed them to ask what kind of oil was in the bottle since they spilled it and wanted to know what to use. They were told it was sewing machine/light machine oil.


As I said above, the owners manual says the bottle contains mineral oil.


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
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I meant the oil that originally comes with the Alecto, sorry for being unclear. IIRC somebody emailed them to ask what kind of oil was in the bottle since they spilled it and wanted to know what to use. They were told it was sewing machine/light machine oil.

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As I said above, the owners manual says the bottle contains mineral oil.


Most of sewing machine oils are mineral oils. There are also some natural oils used but not so often.
So in most cases sewing machine oil and mineral oil is basically the same thing. However, there are three types of refined mineral oil: paraffinic, naphthenic and aromatic oil. Which one is in the Alecto bottle? What other additives are in this oil? I guess nobody knows because it is proprietary information of the manufacturer. Everything is just speculation. All we know for sure is that Pellgunoil works and can be substituted for that oil in the bottle. That’s my point.


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
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Just last night I posed this question about a suitable replacement for the OEM oil that comes with the Alecto - to Derick Cole, Webley Scott in the USA. His reply came shortly thereafter:

"Crosman pelloil is a good oil to use."

I presume he is referring to Crosman Pellgunoil, or Pellgunoil Oil, however you read it.


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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
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I haven't tried anything yet, since I have OEM oil. But why not use air tool oil? I've never Been a fan of oils using dies in them due to the fact some leave a candy coating if they sit for to long.

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 Post subject: Re: Alecto Owners
PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:53 am 
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Why not just use a silicon oil? It should work for everything.


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