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 Post subject: PCP hand pump
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:10 pm 
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I just got rid of my old Hill pump and I am looking to get a brand new PCP hand pump. What is the cheapest one out there right now and that won't give me too many problems for at least a couple of years from now.. ? I am not interested in buying another used pump or other people's problems.. Only interested in new! Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:58 pm 
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Kinetic_Genius wrote:
I just got rid of my old Hill pump and I am looking to get a brand new PCP hand pump. What is the cheapest one out there right now and that won't give me too many problems for at least a couple of years from now.. ? I am not interested in buying another used pump or other people's problems.. Only interested in new! Thanks.

My Hatsan pump still works great and didn't cost me an arm and a leg or you might wait for the new Benjamin pump to come out, it should be out sometime next month.
http://www.crosman.com/gear/pcp/HPP3KU

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:15 am 
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Thanks for the heads up! I might just wait for that one before I get any other one!

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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Kinetic_Genius wrote:
Thanks for the heads up! I might just wait for that one before I get any other one!

Sorry, I made a mistake, not until summer for the pump.

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Hatsan hand pump: $195
http://www.airgunforum.ca/store/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=66

Benjamin hand pump: $199.99 (currently out of stock)
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-pcp-charging/benjamin-hand-pump.html
$198.99
http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Benjamin-Sheridan/007_High_Pressure_Pump_HPP2KU.html

Axsor 3 Stage Hand Pump: $269.95
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-pcp-charging/axsor-3-stage-hand-pump.html

Hill Mk. 3: $259.99
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-pcp-charging/hill-pump-mk3-w/-dry-pac-up-to-3300-psi.html
$239.99 (Plus LOTS of accessories)
http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Hill/
$215
http://www.airgunsource.com/store/index.php?product=HILL-S660&c=163

FX 4-Stage Turbo Hand Pump: $299.00
http://www.airgunsource.com/store/index.php?product=FX-0110

Honestly, I would just spend the extra $45 and get another Hill. They do have a lifetime warranty on them.


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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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averagejoe wrote:

What ? A lifetime warranty on a hill pump. And all this time I've been buying part,s.? Where can I read up on that?

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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What ? A lifetime warranty on a hill pump. And all this time I've been buying part,s.? Where can I read up on that?


http://www.airriflepump.com/frequently-asked-questions.php
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Limited Lifetime Warranty

If you the original purchaser of the pump find any defect in material or workmanship with your Hill Air Compressor Pump, please return if to Ernest H Hill Limited at the above address.

Please call us on 0114 2484882 and obtain an official returns number which you must write clearly on the pump. This warranty does not cover accessories, paint finishes or general wear and tear of the pump.

When you send your pump please make sure to send it by registered post. We do not accept responsibility for items that do not reach us.


So in other words if you take care of it and a part fails due to a defect etc, or plating comes off the tubes (maybe?) that is covered for life.


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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:52 pm 
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I have a Hatsan pump but only had it for a couple months although I have used it for about 2,000 shots. It works great and its a solid well made unit, I do occasionally wipe and apply silicone grease to the exposed part of the pump shaft. I have only pumped 50 times maybe twice before letting it cool, usually I pump about 35 at a time. I only need 100 bar to fill then shoot to 60-65bar. It came from the air gun forum store and I believe when all was said and done it worked out to be about $100.00 less than a Hill.

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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Eric seems to have the best price around at $179.99 for a Bejamin pump.. http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/pro ... pump-p-169

I am not too fond of getting another Hill pump and certainly not for the extra $70. I just sold mine because it was starting to show signs of problems, even after a new seal change and oil job. I rather get the Hatsan pump out of the whole bunch for that price and they seem to make decent stuff for the money.

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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I was also thinking about a pump - thanks for this thread, Kinetic. Until your last post, I was thinking about a Hill pump myself. So the Hatsan is recommended? Are parts and/or their warrantee available this side of the pond?

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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Thanks for all the links averagejoe !
Good thread even for people that don't have pcp's.
Gotta love this forum ... people actually help :)

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:59 pm 
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Kinetic_Genius wrote:
Eric seems to have the best price around at $179.99 for a Bejamin pump.. http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/pro ... pump-p-169

I am not too fond of getting another Hill pump and certainly not for the extra $70. I just sold mine because it was starting to show signs of problems, even after a new seal change and oil job. I rather get the Hatsan pump out of the whole bunch for that price and they seem to make decent stuff for the money.


Oh crap, I can't believe I forgot Erics store. I thought there should have been another one. :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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I could have sworn I heard the benji pumps were crap. but hatsan pumps were good, or was that the other way around. Jeez I hate getting old.

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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Remember a while back the Horvath Brothers compared the Hill and Hatsan. They didn't give the Hatsan a good review but they had it for a year and I figure since they were probably sharing it and maybe using it as the only pump in the store. I don't know what the climate is like in Brasil either but it had not died by the time they got the Hill, and the Hatsan may have suffered through a learning curve. We'll see after they've used the Hill for a year. on that basis I figured it would be safe to try the Hatsan. I have read posts from people who have used their Benjamin pumps for years, I think it comes down to how hard you work it heat wise and regular maintenance lubrication wise. I also have found that there is a fitness curve with these pumps, proper posture is a must to keep from injuring yourself and to make it possible to pump over 1500psi because it starts to get hard about there. I couldn't imagine having to pump to 3000psi all the time.

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 Post subject: Re: PCP hand pump
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Topping up to about 2,700psi to 2,800psi was my reason for a pump.

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