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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:47 pm 
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Ok after running a magazine as fast as I could, things started to "pickup". The trigger would seize for a second, sometimes jamming on the inside. So I desided to dive in and see where the problem lies, and after an hour I'm stuck on two things.

The spring on the secondary trigger fell out and I just can see where the spring would push off of, in order to keep pressure in the right direction.

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Maybe someone here knows this gun, or sees something I don't. Thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:15 pm 
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Hi, I'm not familiar with this model of gun but have a look at this http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum. ... _5023.html


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:36 am 
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Greatly appreciate that link! Thanks Ranger

Now that I have the secondary trigger assembled, it now on to the issue why this pistol is having indexing issues. I'm hoping it just needs a little lubricating!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:43 am 
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I'm glad you got your trigger sorted out. :D
Like I said I'm not familiar that gun, however my experience with other gun models is sometimes they won't cycle properly if you do not let the trigger fully return forward after each squeeze.
I have had that happen to me before, especially if I was going for rapid fire.
Your gun internals look good from your pics, so check it, lube it, and try it out again.
Best of Luck Kevin


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:18 pm 
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Well my 686 is now fully assembled and operating smoothly! Couldn't find any issue, so I just greased the pivots, contacting faces, plus I removed the indexing slide and greased it. So I'm thinking the indexing issue is mainly a lubrication issue. Only time will tell!

Thanks Again Ranger, greatly appreciate your assistance


Has anyone here had one of these pistols apart? I noticed that in front of the valve is a chamber cast chamber that contains a transfer port and spring, which keeps the port sealed in the housing. The only thing I could of as to reason was its an expansion chamber, but that's ,y best guess.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:34 pm 
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Now that I have his pistol working like it just left the factory, I noticed something. During normal use the pin that hold the anti rotation mechanism for the magazines, tends to vibrate outward. It hasn't fallen out yet but it's a possibility if one isn't paying attention. Now to figure out a permanent fix! Maybe this is a defect in my pistol or possibility in all the 586/686 revolvers, if anyone else notices this in their revolver let me know.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:58 pm 
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Did some speed shooting this afternoon on some cans. After the second mag of lead the pistol jammed internally again, not sure why this happens but ill find out tonight. I'm think the spring that the mag index slide uses pop out of its location for continues use. I noticed on my last open heart surgery, so if this is the problem I'll be using a small drop of silicone to hold the spring in position and hold it there. I just hope it's that spring!

Anyone else having this issue with their smiths?

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