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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:02 am 
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Had to do something with the racket in this babe. So tore it down and made a tight fitting guide. Factory guide was 0.040" smaller. Made a tophat of delrin as it did not have one. First assembled with clear tar euro-lube. Gun was much improved but a bit of buzz remained. Accuracy was great with JSB exacts The post on Tar and comment by Russ had me curious if it would help. Cleaned up and applied the tar sparingly down the coils of the spring. Used some Vortek seal lube to compliment .JM's tar. Shot cycle VERY pleasant! Thwock nice and crisp. Will chrony and test it later today. Initial observation is TAR is essential to illuminating twang in a springer.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:09 am 
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Just "Pulling Your Leg"..Walter...
Eliminating Twang...
Do not want to "Light-Up" Twang.
Just watching out for you.... :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:03 am 
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Many people will not use that JM tar as it can reduce shot-to-shot consistency...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:33 am 
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jgoodz420 wrote:
Many people will not use that JM tar as it can reduce shot-to-shot consistency...


What do 'they' use? To control eliminate twang?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:19 pm 
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jgoodz420 wrote:
Many people will not use that JM tar as it can reduce shot-to-shot consistency...

I think they are the people that use too much. Used very sparingly it sure does smooth things out. I think there are a few Brit concoctions that are not as thick and seem to work very well.

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Twang gone with Vortek kit installed. More of a snap now. After 5000 shots still perfect.. for 90$ I think it is worth it.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:07 pm 
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Wiped off the excess tar
Made a new guide 0.005" larger than first attempt
Seems twang free so testing tomorrow

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jgoodz420 wrote:
Many people will not use that JM tar as it can reduce shot-to-shot consistency...

Î have had that same problem well using same tar


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:04 am 
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Same here so I installed a v-mach kit. That solved the "twang" but introduced other issues. I tried the tar at first which helped but I found when it was really hot out the twang would come back. If I can't sort out the issues with the v-mach kit I think I'll try a new guide and make a top hat for the factory spring.


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jgoodz420 wrote:
Many people will not use that JM tar as it can reduce shot-to-shot consistency...


What do 'they' use? To control eliminate twang?


Some people just use it very sparingly, or not at all, it all depends what your main concern is. If your after a quieter shot cycle, the tar does help, but too much and it will start flying all over the inside of the gun, especially when it is hot, when it gets cold the viscosity of the tar can rise significantly causing velocity drop.

If you are going for shot to shot consistency I have always used moly on the spring faces, thats it.

My TX has a bit of twang, but I am not concerned as the the shot to shot consistency is outstanding. They are slightly different than HW97 internally, but I am also testing a HW97 with a V-Glide system/compression tube in it, which makes it function the same as a TX

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:47 pm 
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Thanks fellas, shot the new tighter guide today and getting 825fps with the 8.6grain JSB Exacts.
Twang is gone and seems pretty consistant 822 825 827 820 etc.....
In reading on the net found some reference to leaking breech seal and how to bend the arm to tighten up the seal. Also shimming the breech seal to get a good seal. Was also some mention of the tube end leaking. See no evidence of that but may have been an issue some time back?

Figure this is a 12fpe rifle so pretty much right on at 825 IIRC.

Gotta shoot this girl a bunch. Every shot and hit puts a smile on my face! I am over the moon with this springer!
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congrats so when you posting a pic of this thing :drinkers:

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Definitely the first rifle on my list for next year! Hopefully Walter I can ask you then what you did to make the gun a little bit quieter. I too like quiet guns.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:15 pm 
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Rick , will do! Love this rifle! :-)

Will get pics up asap.

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