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 Post subject: Shoe-Box
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:43 am 
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Finally Completed all the pre-filtering for the Shoe-Box
Did a test run and everything is "Leak Free" and as it should be..
Just have to get a "Quieter" First stage Compressor in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:34 am 
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WOW, that's a LOT of hoses!

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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The hose from the compressor to the Deliquescent desiccant tower is 50 feet, this is the get the compress "hot" air time to cool, there by giving up "moisture" to the Desiccant tower and be drained off, then air goes through a "Particulate" filter and to a "Silica Gel" filter, which drops the dew point -40C/-70C, through another 5 micron post filter and into the Shoe-Box.
Yes it is a Bit of Over-Kill, but like to build things like Lego..
Topped up both a 88 cuf 4500 psi and a 80 cuf 3000 and not Moisture at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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Yup. That eould be the way to do it. May I suggest a 25' curly hose vs your 50' soft wall. The curly hose will help disipate heat more readily than the soft wall one. Being its layered construction heat is not disipated efficiently. JMO
Nice set up either way.

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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Yup. That eould be the way to do it. May I suggest a 25' curly hose vs your 50' soft wall. The curly hose will help disipate heat more readily than the soft wall one. Being its layered construction heat is not disipated efficiently. JMO
Nice set up either way.


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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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May be a "good Length of Copper Coiled Tubing"..Then it would be "Shine". :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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With that amount of pre-filtering, 4500psi tanks and so on- there's a good buck tied up there- why did you go with the Shoebox to start with instead of a more typical 5000psi 3-stage compressor?

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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Good and fare Question...Eric/ Scopes and Ammo
First asked Shelden Sporting Goods Inc. 1723 N Athenian -- Wichita, KS 67203
Scuba Compressor for us$ 2,175 plus shipping.
If he would ship to Canada and his answer was, the Canadian customs, always gave him a very hard time about "Duties and other problems" and suggested to pick up "Rebuilt by him a Scuba Compressor" in Buffalo NY.
Decided not to, go that route.

Second was pricing a Bauer Line..Portable PE 100, Junior and Oceanus Compressor Systems.
Sean Rowand, VP Eastern Canada Operations,Jordair Compressors Inc.Mississauga, Ontario.
That price was ca$6,000 plus another ca$600 for the electrical control box, and shipping.

So yes the the Shoe box was much more for the price..This Shoe-Box is the Freedom 8. Faster, Quieter, 125psi input, electronic shutoff and built much better.
The pre filter total at sale was..the tower princes auto ca$49 dollars, desiccant ca$25 dollars, Silica Gel ca$101 and the
2 (5micron) post filters on sale at ca$19 each. The hoses, I had except the 50 feet, on sale at HomeDepot ca$38, the fittings may be total ca$100..So a grand total of ca$350, should be about a good Guesstimate.
But this Pre Filter set up was just a "Want to Do".
Yes, just the "Silica Gel" plus a 5 Micron filter and hose and fitting is all that is really needed.
Just for the "Toys".

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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Ah- the filter setup is a bit better in price than I would have expected- nice.

I have a little shoebox (older, 3000psi) unit I fill my own tanks with and for the occasional PCP repair, and have looked into acquiring a "proper" 5000psi unit- seems there are a couple companies in the US that will ship to businesses in Canada- but they also start at $3k.

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 Post subject: Re: Shoe-Box
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Ah- the filter setup is a bit better in price than I would have expected- nice.

I have a little shoebox (older, 3000psi) unit I fill my own tanks with and for the occasional PCP repair, and have looked into acquiring a "proper" 5000psi unit- seems there are a couple companies in the US that will ship to businesses in Canada- but they also start at $3k.

If you use a lot of it wouldn't it be cheaper to rent a tank from AirLiquide, Weldco or someone similar?

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