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 Post subject: 2240 mod to R or NR
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:27 pm 
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consensus here seems to be that converting a 2240 to a 30" overal length carbine shooting 500+, makes it a restricted firearm.

does anybody have any real life experience with this?

or any legislation they can quote?


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 Post subject: Re: 2240 mod to R or NR
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:08 pm 
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I built a 2250 carbine as you described (18" barrel, over 30" overall), tried to register it as non-restricted (when the registry was still in place) and was refused as the CFC list it (and the 2240) as handguns and I don't have an RPAL.... I had to detune it to under 500 fps or forfeit it to the RCMP (I chose to detune it).... I argued that the 2250 was listed on Crosman's website as a rifle and they said it was originally a handgun and the law is quite clear.... once a handgun always a handgun....

I would say that qualifies as a "real life experience".... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: 2240 mod to R or NR
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:31 pm 
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yes it definately does.

but what if you had of said "id like to register my home made rifle, i call it the rsterne 69-420"


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 Post subject: Re: 2240 mod to R or NR
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:18 pm 
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I made the gun from parts, but the tube I started with was from a 2250.... and THAT was the problem.... Had I started from a piece of unmarked steel tubing (or a 2260 tube, which is a rifle) there would not have been a problem.... I had to supply detailed photos as part of the process....

Your question was about a 2240, and it and the 2250 are both handguns in the eyes of the CFC.... so I answered your question....

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 Post subject: Re: 2240 mod to R or NR
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:29 pm 
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Bob what if all markings of the 2250 where removed and you said you build the tube from scratch would they know the deference ? would it pass ?

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 Post subject: Re: 2240 mod to R or NR
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I have no idea.... do you really want to find out?.... Starting from a blank piece of steel tubing and scratch-building your own rifle was apparently OK, providing you registered it.... Now that there is no registry, I have no idea how they would view the same process if you ever got checked for some reason.... Presumably if the gun was designed to be fired with both hands and was over 26" long it would be considered non-restricted and if you had a PAL shouldn't be a problem.... but that's just a guess....

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 Post subject: Re: 2240 mod to R or NR
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rsterne wrote:
I have no idea.... do you really want to find out?....


No not really :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 2240 mod to R or NR
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Buy the 2260 tube and don't worry. It is a registered rifle! Uses all the 22XX parts.

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