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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:06 pm 
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Modern Patriot is a clone of Hatsan 135. He is Manufactured at hatsan factory. Difference in the stock..


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:45 pm 
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Voltar1 wrote:
IIRC the Benji XL is the Remington Genesis?


No- when it was previously the original "Remington NP" a couple year back it shared some small parts with the Genesis and had the same tube diameter (not length, Genesis was much shorter). The NP XL is closest to the SuperStreak, nowhere near as small as the Genesis was (Crosman has recently started branding some of the B18/B19-based NP rifles as "Genesis Jim Shockey" models- and there is zero similarity between these and the original Genesis or the current NP XL models).







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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:55 am 
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Thank you Eric.
Forgot about the super streak.
Interesting chart of specs eh?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:38 am 
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You can be found pictures here

Genesis and NPSS
29*83mm
http://gnom256.narod.ru/obzori/genesis.html
http://gnom256.narod.ru/obzori/remnpss.html

Stoeger X50/Benjamin Super Streak/Benjamin Trail NP 1500/BAM22
29*116-118mm
http://gnom256.narod.ru/obzori/benjtrail1500.html
http://gnom256.narod.ru/obzori/st50.html

And Benjamin Trail NP/ Crosman Quest\Phantom / Stoeger X20/BAM19
25*100mm
http://gnom256.narod.ru/obzori/benjtrail.html


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:52 am 
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Is it possible for you to get a 22 barrel for the Hatsan 135?

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I failed to mention that I also had to remove the 3-4mm high "nub" that held/centered the spring guide. I did this with a belt grinder in a matter of seconds. I have no idea whether the Hatsan 60 is built the same, but that info might be helpful.
I just ordered a new 30mm scope and mounts for the 135. Now, I am looking forward to seeing how it shoots.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:35 pm 
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Voltar1 wrote:
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Is it possible for you to get a 22 barrel for the Hatsan 135?

Yes. .22 and .25 LW or CZ barrels
http://www.topguns.ru/ppp-v-6i35-minomet/
I can do more photo if you want. I do it very often.


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Voltar1 wrote:
Interesting chart of specs eh?


A handy resource it seems. Any idea if there are any updates on it out there?









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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:41 pm 
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GnoM wrote:
Voltar1 wrote:
Gnom
Is it possible for you to get a 22 barrel for the Hatsan 135?

Yes. .22 and .25 LW or CZ barrels
http://www.topguns.ru/ppp-v-6i35-minomet/
I can do more photo if you want. I do it very often.


Looks real fine Gnom!

How do you get the block off the original barrel?

Is it possible to purchase a 22 barrel with breech block?

Walter....

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:32 pm 
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Thank you!
Barrel has a stop pin. It squeezed out after extracting pin.
Send barrel from Russia is impossible. But you can do it yourself if you have lathe. I'll give some more important photo in a couple of days


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owen wrote:
I failed to mention that I also had to remove the 3-4mm high "nub" that held/centered the spring guide. I did this with a belt grinder in a matter of seconds. I have no idea whether the Hatsan 60 is built the same, but that info might be helpful.
I just ordered a new 30mm scope and mounts for the 135. Now, I am looking forward to seeing how it shoots.

Owen

something i'll watch for
i'll take a few pics of anything out of the ordinary


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:13 am 
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GnoM wrote:
Thank you!
Barrel has a stop pin. It squeezed out after extracting pin.
Send barrel from Russia is impossible. But you can do it yourself if you have lathe. I'll give some more important photo in a couple of days


Thank you Gnom
Look forward to more info and pics as you can

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so taking apart the hatsan 60s getting ready for the gas piston
as i start to take it apart
immediately 2 small pieces fall out from the quattro trigger area
the problem is that the parts do not fit anywhere and the trigger still operates exactly as it did before
one part is a small pin and the other is a small barrel shaped piece
i have not been able to find the schematics for the quattro trigger
so if anyone knows has them i'd appreciate a peek
i did write hatsan and ask for the parts list and schematics
so fingers crossed


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GnoM wrote:
Thank you!
Barrel has a stop pin. It squeezed out after extracting pin.
Send barrel from Russia is impossible. But you can do it yourself if you have lathe. I'll give some more important photo in a couple of days


Great info GnoM. I was wondering what that pin in the breach was for.

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i think my topic has been hijacked


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