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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:59 pm 
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Low down on them rebranded known by many other names http://sunopticsusa.com/mounting-system ... se-combos/
They wont hold zero.
If anyone wants a set of them 30mm dovetail with 5 brand new riser post sets let me know. Used for one shoot that's it 10 years ago. I could not even place rifle down gently without serious zero shift measured in inches at poke down range. As Good said they are a real pain to setup, problem is once set you dare not place rifle down between shots! That bad.
Other problem they are meant for shallow cut dovetails offering far less grab.

Pay the extra go for the Burris or Sportsmatch.

Bit pointless having a rail off the shelf you would require the tilt to suit the scope optical centre and every scope differs substantially. The best way is have a rail made to suit the optical centre of scope used.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:17 am 
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It *looks* like the sportsmatch adjuster does allow for forward scope cant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp40A4yRyiI

Burris rings adjustment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcRAX5O ... lpage#t=89

I think Burris is the answer to my question.
I'm not just saying this because of the use of foley in their marketing video...
Seems like the simplest solution to my problem.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:21 am 
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With the Burris you have eccentric inserts, so if want a touch 1MOA extra at rear you will get crossover as well.

Sportsmatch are only for decent or proper cut dovetails, put them on most rifles and top of rifle dovetail will collapse or crimp.

Best way forward is specific rail with required tilt built in along with top dovetail to suit the none adjustable mounts used.
Or even an adjustable tilt rail.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 10:52 pm 
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I knew I hadn't settled on an answer when I did nothing to purchase a solution.
Here's why I didn't:
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Ted breaks it down in a video:
http://tedsholdover.com/2014/05/08/fx-no-limits-scope-mounts/

I see them available linked there (AOA), but shouting out to vendors for a source in Canada, and a reason to order these badass rings in.
Ted makes it look easy, but from all accounts, these ARE easier then just about anything else out there.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:12 am 
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Look these up:
http://www.sportsmatch-uk.com/green-products-table
ATP65, AOP55 & BKL288: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BKL_1_Pc_ ... Black/4134

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:22 am 
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Sportsmatch were a close second, and do use a threaded measure for vertical adjustment, as well as pivot.
What they don't have is large range of adjustment.
As Ted notes in video, they double as a medium-extra high scope mount and offer more adjustment then one will need.

The rail simply is not an option as I noted due to magazine.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:29 am 
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Burris Sig Rings are nice I use them myself..An airgun bud of mine recently got a highly specialized mount for one of his airguns..



http://www.istorya.net/forums/hobbies-a ... -1513.html


Pardon the dialect coz it is in Filipino..


Link to the mounts w/c is said to be the best there is..They are not cheap though..


http://spuhr.com/index.html

http://spuhr.com/isms-pictures.html


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:00 am 
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us$80.00 dollars is not bad.
FX- Unlimited Mounts.
Easily Adjustable for Height and Angle
Solid Locking Design
Adjustable Height 0.170 Inches
Adjustable Angle +/- 1.5 Degrees
$79.95

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 1:23 pm 
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blarg wrote:
I know you can shim rear rings, jimmy things and make it work, but surely it's been done already.
I'm looking for a set of rings I can adjust for sub-pal long range shooting that will leave me some vertical scope adjustment.
These are what prompted the post - I welcome links to similar items:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOj78x2EflI
I can't find them for sale or a price anywhere.

These are adjustable, but not sure they allow a downward cant to scope mounted in them:
http://www.trail-marker.com/sports-match-1-two-piece-high-fully-adjustable/dp/781

I am not looking to add a +X MOA adapter (and weight of it) into the mix so thinking dovetail rings are the answer.

http://youtu.be/HSjnVjvtSbY
They are made by FX. looks like exactly what you need


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:33 pm 
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Kowalski wrote:
[http://youtu.be/HSjnVjvtSbY
They are made by FX. looks like exactly what you need

very handy for sure, no more shimming needed 8)

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:10 pm 
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Go to Ted's website http://tedsholdover.com. He's just reviewed the new mounts from FX and they seem perfect... especially after I went to the trouble to machine my scope rings to work on the Diana 34.
Not sure where to get them in Canada though...

John

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:03 pm 
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AirGun Source have the FX Unlimited Rings in both one inch and 30 mil. Eta is about 6 weeks.
That was the answer received.

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Would be nice if the FX rings allowed for windage adjustment too, if you have any substantial side-to-side mis-alignment they will become unusable.

Good to see more adjustable mounts hitting the market though, there are not too many of these availible, especially for 30mm scopes

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Would be nice if the FX rings allowed for windage adjustment too, if you have any substantial side-to-side mis-alignment they will become unusable.

Good to see more adjustable mounts hitting the market though, there are not too many of these availible, especially for 30mm scopes


I think you'd have too many screws moving for a stable mount then! If you need windage, the old Redfield system works good on their one piece mount for centrefire rifles!

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jgoodz420 wrote:
Would be nice if the FX rings allowed for windage adjustment too, if you have any substantial side-to-side mis-alignment they will become unusable.


I think you'd have too many screws moving for a stable mount then! If you need windage, the old Redfield system works good on their one piece mount for centrefire rifles!


Sportmatch makes them, not as much elevation adjustment, but the FX also has much more than necessary...Its a good selling point, but most will never use/need that much adjustment...
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Honestly, I was quite skeptical of the Sportsmatch 1pc adjustable, but it seems to be holding fine on my 12FPE TX, not sure I would try it on anything with a lot of power though.
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I would be looking at the Hawke 1pc mount if I just had to correct/adjust for elevation, it has a adjustment wheel on the back, looks interesting, but I haven't heard much about them though...
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdo ... -base.html
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Quote:
"Hawke technical support say this mount is warranted to stand up to use on any recoiling air rifle or centerfire rifle."

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